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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request / suggestion[edit]
The lede paragraph finishes with the sentence:
Neither claim, however, is widely recognized internationally.
This is followed by a link to Note 3 and a reference. Note 3 begins:
Jerusalem is the capital under Israeli law.
I suggest that this shows an unintended bias, as the definite article in the phrase "the capital" implies it applies to only a single entity – Israel, in this case – while the previous sentence makes clear that there are competing and contested Israeli and Palestinian claims. I suggest that the text would be both more neutral and clearer as:
Jerusalem is Israel's capital under Israeli law.
or something similar. Thanks. 1.141.198.161 (talk) 08:52, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Since there is absolutely no limit to amount of dispute over Jerusalem's capital-ness, couldn't someone counter the claim that the definite article implies it applies to only a single entity by saying that the use of a possessive apostrophe in "is Israel's capital" implies that it is, in fact, Israel's capital, and no one else's? In any case, someone more sensible than me will probably be along to handle your request. Sean.hoyland (talk) 09:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done, no improvement.Selfstudier (talk) 10:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agree - The de facto capital of the State of Palestine in the West Bank is Ramallah. The Gaza Strip capital was considered Gaza City prior to the 2023-2024 conflict. Israel maintains control over most of the territories claimed as Jerusalem in this article. Its government institutions are located there and most countries and organizations support that West Jerusalem and East Jerusalem should be allocated as capital cities to the Israelis and the Palestinians. West Jerusalem is the focus of this article (there is an article for East Jerusalem.) BasedGigachad (talk) 21:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- The focus of this article is Jerusalem, there is an article for West Jerusalem. Selfstudier (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 April 2024[edit]
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78.172.218.152 (talk) 08:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
This information is wrong. Because Jerusalem is not a recognised capital of Israel by the UN. It's a self claimed.
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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(talk|contribs) 08:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Opening paragraph[edit]
"and Palestine ultimately foresees it as its seat of power." this is misleading charachterization that goes around the occupied nature of East Jerusalem under international law. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- That's in para 4 of the lead. Also don't forget we have that old RFC saying we don't go making substantive alterations without a large consensus. Selfstudier (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes and I guess it should in para 1 of the lede since the opening paragraph should establish context. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, because this is the factual situation, Palestine has no actual presence in Jerusalem. ---Lilach5 (לילך5) discuss 04:31, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 June 2024[edit]
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223.123.10.11 (talk) 20:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Because Jerusalem is the capital of palestine Wikipedia provided wrong information about Jerusalem Origin of Jerusalem is the capital of palestine
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 21:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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