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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_August_30
August 30
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Optical microscope components
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Optical microscope components to Category:Microscope components
- Nominator's rationale: I don't see a reason to have both of these categories. Most of the entries in Category:Microscope components are particular to optical microscopes. I would be amenable to deleting Category:Microscope components instead and putting this category in its place. Srleffler (talk) 13:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Noblemen
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Do we really need an intersection between men and nobility under EGRS? I'd be find with this if it were limited to specific titles. But, as this is coded, I foresee this becoming a mess if we have untitled male nobility by nationality categories. Mason (talk) 12:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:1501 establishments in Venezuela
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1501 establishments in Venezuela (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:16th-century establishments in Venezuela
- Propose deleting Category:1501 in Venezuela (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1500s establishments in Venezuela (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:1500s in Venezuela (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Category:1501 establishments in Venezuela is a single-member category which is unhelpful for navigation (and Category:1500s establishments in Venezuela would have the same problem if that was the upmerge target). Upmerge for now to the century level and delete the categories which will then become empty. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Also merge to Category:1501 establishments in South America. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ukrainian occupation of Russia
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Inherently flawed category; categories about military occupations do not contain occupied settlements, as the category can become rapidly out of date, especially in an ongoing war such as this one, and editors should not be expected to add or remove this type of category every time a settlement is captured or by either side. Typically, as is the case with Category:Russian occupation of Ukraine, these categories contain articles about the occupations themselves, not occupied settlements, but for this topic there is only one article pertaining specifically to the occupation, the main article on the only oblast which is partially occupied. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 11:43, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. No objection to having a category with articles about the military developments in this occupied area. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. More than 5 articles were included into category. Teterev53 (talk) 23:53, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Flemmish Nietzsche: after User:Teterev53 has reorganized the category, the nomination presumably changes to delete Category:Places of the Ukrainian occupation of Russia. I have tagged that category too. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:03, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle I would say delete both; four of the six articles in the occupation category merely duplicate Category:Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and we don't need two categories on effectively the same thing; three of those four articles aren't even from after the start of the incursion/offensive, and thus Ukraine was not actually occupying any Russian territory. Until the category can sustain more than just an article on the category's topic and the person who runs it, I don't see a very good reason for its existence, or for the newly made Category:Places of the Ukrainian occupation of Russia. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 08:56, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- That is a fair point, I support deletion of both too. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle I would say delete both; four of the six articles in the occupation category merely duplicate Category:Attacks in Russia during the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and we don't need two categories on effectively the same thing; three of those four articles aren't even from after the start of the incursion/offensive, and thus Ukraine was not actually occupying any Russian territory. Until the category can sustain more than just an article on the category's topic and the person who runs it, I don't see a very good reason for its existence, or for the newly made Category:Places of the Ukrainian occupation of Russia. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 08:56, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete both?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:Beijing Municipal Committee of the Chinese Communist Party
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Beijing Municipal Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Province-level committees of the Chinese Communist Party
- Propose merging Category:Hunan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Province-level committees of the Chinese Communist Party
- Propose merging Category:Hainan Provincial Committee of the Chinese Communist Party to Category:Province-level committees of the Chinese Communist Party
- Nominator's rationale: Three eponymous categories for political committees, each only containing the eponym with no other content at all. As always, everything that exists does not automatically get its own eponymous category just to recursively contain itself -- these would be fine if there were at least four or five spinoff articles to file in any of them besides the eponyms, but are not needed for just one thing. Bearcat (talk) 11:24, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible that given 2 days I could quickly write these entries to keep these categorized? TinaLees-Jones (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- New articles about notable topics are always welcome. That is irrespective of categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:46, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is it possible that given 2 days I could quickly write these entries to keep these categorized? TinaLees-Jones (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy merge per WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:29, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ToadetteEdit (talk) 18:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile the categories have been populated with articles that provide hardly any further information about these committees, so I am not changing my vote. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is the population enough to keep the categories?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Category:The Numbers not in Wikidata
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:The Numbers not in Wikidata to Category:The Numbers ID not in Wikidata
- Nominator's rationale: To move where the articles have been recategorized to via the {{Cite The Numbers}} temp. Consistency with Category:The Numbers ID different from Wikidata. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect. There's no need to discuss this, especially since the proposed target "rename" already exists as a category, meaning the only thing that needs to happen is a categoryredirect. Bearcat (talk) 13:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)