Talk:Jeeves
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[edit]Jeeves and Wooster are very twenties in style. If they had an Edwardian style, it would be a much more Upstairs Downstairs style. Here the servant does have some say in how the master conducts himself. Was Ganymede a servant to Jupiter or to Zeus?
- According the Ganymede article, Ganymede was a servant to Zeus, and Catamitus was the equivalent to Jupiter. I'll correct the article. —Paul A 13:48, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Clarification
[edit]Ok, so the part about 'Bertie Wooster Changes His Mind' & 'Ring For Jeeves' need some clarifying. Is Ring For Jeeves narrated by Jeeves or by Bertie? Or is it a 3rd-Person POV? I have not read Ring For Jeeves, though I've read Changes His Mind, so I would not know. --'DTPQueen' 22:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Well spotted - I've edited the article to clarify this. Ring for Jeeves is written in the third person. Robin Johnson (talk) 22:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Jeeves's first name
[edit]I have reverted the removal of "Reginald" from Jeeves's name after reading the following passage from Much Obliged, Jeeves, which I thought was quite clear (Bertie is speaking): "'Hullo Reggie,' he said, and I froze in my chair, stunned by the revelation that Jeeves's first name was Reginald."
I have also clarified the first paragraph accordingly. — Dan | Talk 20:58, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Seems reasonable. Thanks. --Minority Report (entropy rim riot) 22:29, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
(re Twenties) I have read that some people suggest Jeeves and Bertie are frozen in the timeless Edwardian world of Wodehouse's youth, and that Wodehouse concurred with this notion. I myself had always seen them as 1920's, but I cannot recall WWI ever being mentioned in the canon? John Winkler 14 Jan 2006
- Ring for Jeeves (the only novel with Jeeves but no Wooster) is set after the Second World War - I believe this is explicitly mentioned; someone definitely asks Jeeves if he was involved in "the first war" - at a time in which the British aristocracy is losing power. Robin Johnson 13:10, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Bertie Wooster Sees It Through
[edit]Call me an Insane Jack, but the article does not mention Bertie Wosster Sees It Through. That was a quite remarkable book. (unsigned comment by Waux J.V. Trident 07:20, 28 October 2005)
- The old multiple-titles problem surfaces again; that's the U.S. title for Jeeves and the Feudal Spirit, already mentioned. David Arthur 15:28, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
- Only UK titles seem to be listed here; perhaps the US ones should be included as well. In any case, all variations may be found at List of books by P. G. Wodehouse. — Dan | Talk 15:36, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Family?
[edit]Maybe it would be nice to have some mention of what little is known about Jeeves' family. I seem to remember a niece somewhere along the line, and that he had an uncle Charlie Silversmith, who was a butler, but I'm not sufficiently familiar with the cannon to write it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.5.134 (talk) 15:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
He does have a niece, who was engaged to one of Bertie's friends. I also can't remember which since I don't have them in front of me. Wasn't he also engaged at some point? To a cook. Caitiland (talk) 23:18, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Characters inspired by Jeeves
[edit]"to Joseph Marcell's Geoffrey of the Banks residence on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air."
On this I must disagree. Geoffrey is more in the line of wisecracking butlers that would include Benson from Soap, et al. Jeeves would advise, never contradict, and certainly never make disparaging remarks about one's charge, to his face or behind his back.
I would consider Mr. French from Family Affair, and even the eponymous Mr. Belvedere from the TV series.
Suggestions? Preceding unsigned comment added by Vbartilucci (talk contribs) 18:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
- How about the numerous AIs named Jeeves, along with other AIs derived from those, in the Ringworld circumquel subseries by Larry Niven and Edward M Lerner? Their personalities varied subtly, and the narrative nudged the reader into caring about them as persons. Will Mengarini (talk) 10:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Jeeves and the Wedding Bells
[edit]Should this page mention the authorized addition to the canon, Jeeves and the Wedding Bells by Sebastian Faulks? It's rather good. 142.204.42.72 (talk) 03:19, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Another article?
[edit]This article is about the character. Should there be a separate article about the book series itself? Carlo (talk) 17:55, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean. There are scads of related articles, about Wodehouse, characters, etc. It's not like there's an simple Jeeves series vs. other Wodehouse works. I don't see that another article is needed. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 22:20, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- There seems to be no article about the Jeeves canon, and Jeeves's character page is filling in as a substitute. The novels of the Jeeves canon are grouped on P. G. Wodehouse bibliography, and the short stories in the canon are grouped on the page P. G. Wodehouse short stories bibliography#Jeeves, but the works and short story detail only seem to be listed them together on Jeeves's character page (and not, for comparison, also on Bertie Wooster's character page). If we can't make a Jeeves canon page, can we at least remove some of the Jeeves#Stories content and link instead to the existing content on the bibliography/short stories bibliography pages? This content makes it seem like this character page is a canon page. Thesoulofdiscretion (talk) 14:50, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- This is still an issue. Specifically a canon page for Jeeves could be called Jeeves canon (following the example of Star Trek canon) or Canon of Jeeves (following the example of Canon of Sherlock Holmes) Thesoulofdiscretion (talk) 19:55, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
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"Last appearance"
[edit]The page currently lists Jeeves's "last appearance" as being in the 2013 book Jeeves and the Wedding Bells in the infobox at the top of the page. This book was an homage written by Sebastian Faulks, not Wodehouse. While I do think this book should be mentioned on the page, I think it is confusing to list it as Jeeves's last appearance, since this seems to imply that the book was written by Wodehouse and not Faulks. Though this book was authorized by the Wodehouse estate, I don't think that's a good enough reason to list it as Jeeves's last official appearance because it is not part of the Wodehouse canon. (Also, Jeeves's most recent non-canonical appearance was actually in an authorized stage production, Jeeves and Wooster in Perfect Nonsense, that toured as recently as last year.) If there are no objections, I would like to change this "last appearance" to Wodehouse's last Jeeves book, or if that isn't possible, to delete that part of the infobox. Miles26 (talk) 23:25, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
- Good point - "Aunts Aren't Gentlemen" (US title: The Cat-nappers) it is, I'd say. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
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