User talk:Knucmo2
Thanks for the support on my RfA!
[edit]File:Danavecpurpletiger.jpg | A belated thank you to you for Supporting my RFA! It passed 54/2/3, much better than I expected! I am still finding my feet as an Administrator, and so far I am enjoying the experience. I am honoured that you felt I was ready to take up this position, and wish to thank you formally! I hope I can live up to your expectations of me. Once again, thank you! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 19:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC) |
Off-wiki personal attacks poll
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My RFA
[edit]Hello Knucmo2, and thanks for supporting me on my recent request for adminship! It has succeeded with an unanimous support of 67 votes, so that I am now an administrator. Please feel free to leave a note on my talk page should you wish to leave any comments or ask for any help. Again, thanks a lot, AndyZ t 21:53, 5 May 2006 (UTC) |
Thank you!
[edit]Hello, Knucmo2, and thank you for vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 62/2/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. As I acclimate myself to my new tools, feel free to let me know how you believe I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! RadioKirk talk to me 05:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC) |
Confusion?
[edit]Hey, you sent me a message about my contributions.
I am sorry, but you had me confused with another member, although I was looking through the test page recently.
I may have changed the Missouri Compromise, but I don't remember. If I did, I'm sorry. It may have been my brother :)
Keep up the good work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.65.104 (talk • contribs)
Karl Marx
[edit]Do you have a reference for this thing about Marx thinking that the replacement of capitalism by communism is 'inevitable'? I mean, I know "everyone knows" that Marx thought that, but do you actually know where he might have said it? Because I've never come across it. mgekelly 12:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes I do, see the talk page at Marx. --Knucmo2 12:34, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your automated comment, it made me chuckle. Who knew a one-letter difference could cause such a fuss over time... Check the talk page. 82.92.119.11 22:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for voting in my RfA!
[edit]Thanks for the vote in my RfA! It didn't gain consensus, but I'm really glad I accepted the nomination. - Amgine 15:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Your vote on my RFA
[edit]Thank you for voting on my RFA, however I've decided to withdraw my nomination. I'll perhaps nominate myself in the future once I have more experience, and not to immaturely release RFAs. Until then, I'll continue working on Wikipedia. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 21:04, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- No problem, don't be too hard on yourself by calling your action "immature". Premature perhaps. --Knucmo2 22:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Roger Hedgecock
[edit]I believe the article states taht Hedgecock's conviction for perjury was overturned. He therefore does not belong in the "Perjuror" category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.123.210.241 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 12 May 2006
- Hmmm, I was unsure. Plus I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia - it is a tertiary source of information - I'd look it up elsewhere. If you've got a source overwrite my change --Knucmo2 23:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
My RFA
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Hi Knucmo2,
Thank you for any constructive criticism you may have given in my recent unsuccesful RFA. I will strive to overcome any shortcomings you may have mentioned & will try & prove myself worthy of your vote in the future.
Cheers
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 09:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
What kind of cleanup?
[edit]Dear Knucmo2, criticism always should be concrete. You demanded a cleanup of my (my=unfortuneately nobody else contributed). What exactly do you want me (or others) to do? (Brush up my English? This had better be done by a native speaker). Please let me know. Thanks and greetings hjn 07:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Which page are we talking about? --Knucmo2 08:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hans_Albert hjn 09:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ah right yes. Well, it's not written in a professional level, but I understand that you are not a native speaker of English, in which case you've done a good job writing it in your second language. The size of the picture needs to be reduced, and moved to the right. His biography needs to be put into prose format rather than a series of bullet points. Also, the other sections containing bullet points have to be gotten rid of (don't remove the content associated with them, just incorporate it into the article - its dead easy). The article is missing external links and citations. Finally it needs copyediting for proper grammar, tone, style etc. --Knucmo2 09:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- This was my idea too. Please have a look on the Version of 02:14, 23 January 2006. Maybe this is what you want and what some other friendly helper didn't like. Who is the mightier god I like to obey willingly? (if it is of any use to the reader). OK, I need some exercise in English so I will try to follow your intententions as far as I understand them correctly. Give me, please, some days and if you could specify further criticism be so kind as to put it on the discussion page of "Hans_Albert". I assure you I like criticism (it is just the kernel of Hans Albert's philosophy). Greetings hjn 10:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- The easiest way is always to copy what other did better. Please, could you possibly tell me an article of this kind? hjn 10:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- As you can see on Hans_Albert I made a lot of what I hope are improvements. Therefore I think me entitled to remove the admonition. If I left some language problems please alarm a native speaker. Hans Albert is a very important German thinker translated in many languages and earned to be handled both professonally and elegantly. Thank you. hjn 08:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ah right yes. Well, it's not written in a professional level, but I understand that you are not a native speaker of English, in which case you've done a good job writing it in your second language. The size of the picture needs to be reduced, and moved to the right. His biography needs to be put into prose format rather than a series of bullet points. Also, the other sections containing bullet points have to be gotten rid of (don't remove the content associated with them, just incorporate it into the article - its dead easy). The article is missing external links and citations. Finally it needs copyediting for proper grammar, tone, style etc. --Knucmo2 09:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hans_Albert hjn 09:31, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Concerning your recent oppose vote in my RfA: You're right that there is a lack of typical "administrative actions" in my Wikipedia history, but does that mean I'm too irresponsible to use of the admin tools themselves? I don't plan on engaging in too many "administrative actions" if I become an admin; I simply am not that sort of editor. So what exactly leads you to believe that I might not be a responsible administrator? -- Rmrfstar 17:44, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Steady now, can you please quote where I said you would not be a responsible admin? That's right, I've said no such thing. But your lack of administrative actions implies a lack of familiarity with the policies that admins are required to follow, and also a lack of experience in areas where the going can easily get very tough for unexperienced admins (e. g. AFD). You've done hardly any reversion of vandalism (20 reverts, to my knowledge) which admins are expected to do, and admin tools give you the power to block users which non-admins have (one reason why so many rc patrollers are keen to become admins). In fact, admins are advised to keep WP:AIV on their page to assist non-admin users at RC patrol. The fact that you've brought this directly to my talk page rather than on the adminship page itself implies to me you've took this oppose vote too personally, and you've accused me of something I did not say. --Knucmo2 18:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
You're claim that I commited vandalism is pure non-sense
[edit]Your message regarding my changes to Karl Marx entry is pure non-sense and you must be clearly insane believing that my actions constituted vandalism. To make your derogatory statement clear I would like to point out to your lack of common sense the following: There were such remarks as "Fuck You" and other abusive language under one section of Karl Marx which I promptly deleted. I do NOT consider deleting derogatory statements or comments as vandalism. If you believe that saying such things as "Fuck You" is OK under any entry then you should check your head with your shrink, pal. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.13.72.134 (talk • contribs) .
Descartes Problematic Idealist
[edit]I am in no way disagreeing with your assessment that Descartes was an Idealist. But his cogito leads him to what Kant specifically calls problematic idealism - which by the way is the best way to go about philosophy according to Kant. he also makes a similar "GEM" (tautological/beggin the question) mistake in his cogito.
As such, whether he really wanted to be an idealist or not his cogito leads him to these conclusions.
cf. Descartes situation to Kant's; Kant's position could just as easily be called transcendental empiricism; many see his epistemological distinctions as almost equivalent to the popperian fallabilist/critical rationaist position which is ANTI IDEALIST in just about every possible way. Professor Michael Devitt characterises kant's position as a Weak-Realist with a negative solution to epistemology (cf. Fallabilism a positive solution to epistemology).
Any how we'll sort this out because there's no point editing and re editing the same paragraph till we sort it out amongst ourselves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.80.123.40 (talk • contribs) .
- I don't know what your talking about, but your misinterpretation of Kant is one for starters, and you seem to be applying fashionable epistemological labels to Kant's thought, which is really quite anachronistic. Kant was a transcendental idealist and an empirical realist, unlike Descartes, because Kant believes we are directly acquainted with objects. You can interpret it to mean whatever you want, but you must have read a different Kant to me if you think he's a transcendental realist. He's a transcendental idealist because he argued that things such as moral data do not lead to direct knowledge of things so we are able to conceive of it, and so we also have a subjective understanding of such things. If Devitt believes he is a pure realist, then he is wrong. It is also a grave mistake to compare him to Popper, who was a transcendental and empirical realist AFAIK. Descartes was a transcendental realist, believing our knowledge of objects is independent of subjective experience (God wants us to see the objects) and experience (reason detects the ideas). I'm not sure whether his cogito leads him to being an idealist; this needs more thought. --Knucmo2 11:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
My RFA
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Thank you, Knucmo2, for voting in my RFA. It closed with a final result of 75/1/0. Now that I am an administrator here, I will continue to improve this encyclopedia, using my new tools to revert vandalism, block persistent vandals, protect pages that have been vandalized intensively, and close AFD discussions. Any questions? Please contact me by adding a new section on my talk page. Again, thanks to all of you who participated!!! -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC) |
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After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Vandal 199.246.2.11
[edit]199.246.2.11 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) vandalised another article. [1]. Notifying you as you gave them a "last warning" and I am not an admin. -999 22:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
About Petrejo
[edit]Can't deny Paul's been fairly consistent (even as far as his seemingly trollish behavior), but if you wish to read my views on his latest contributions, then search no further. I agree with your reply to him about his suggestions to the introduction - but his aims to say Nietzsche was "anti-Christian" obscures some points he mentioned in Ecce Homo and elsewhere (that genuine Christians would not object to his thinking, how he doesn't aim to change morality but put aesthetics above it, etc.) and many other details that simply amounts to no conclusion about his supposed anti-Christian stance, except that it isn't clear and/or it is much more complicated. Least of all is it clear based on the "burgeoisie" nonsense he writes (and is therefore POV to state). Anyway, I look forward to when you decide to contribute more often - I know from a first hand basis how irritating this whole situation has been and will continue to be.Non-vandal 18:49, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- I saw Petrejo's reply to you, and I have a simple objection to make: nowhere is Nietzsche posed as a "moralist", he was an "immoralist" (a position which goes beyond "anti-Christian", ie., it goes "beyond good and evil"). This trivializing view of Petrejo's really deserves no chance in the article, and is an obvious confusion of Kaufmann's "burgeois" position (as Petrejo likes to call it, falsely), because Kaufmann thoroughly noted this in his writings on Nietzsche. Can one say "troll" and not be considered correct here? Well, best of luck,Non-vandal 00:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
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hello Knucmo2 sorry if your busy is theBlackbay here :)
[edit]Help From fellow Wikipedians against censorship!
Thank you for your time I was wondering if i could ask your opinion?? :)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/G. Edward Griffin here is the Article on G. Edward Griffin that I have just reconstructed and am still in the process of doing, But it's been put up for deletion?.
I was wondering if you could pitch in a comment in any direction you feel but I believe this man is very notable having Authored such books as The Creature from Jekyll Island a history of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, but also many many more films as well, also being a member of many organisations.
Me being an inclusionist of sorts I would rather see changes made rather than a wholesale deletion, what do you think?
The man is very notable he has been doing this sort of work since the 60’s when he created the “The Capitalist Conspiracy” one of the first and most documented histories of Political Corruption in film that I know of.
Thank you for all your help, I’m just starting out in Wikipedia I have created the Benjamin H. Freedman, article and reconstructed the The Money Masters article and some others but I need help here! Any help of mine you may need or want in any regard in the future just ask :)
Also any contribution you would like to make to improve the article please consider!
Really i wouldn't ask if i did not really think this article worthy.
-Theblackbay 10:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
noticed you did some edits there a while back - check it out now, lot's of changes and a touch of controversy about the opening paragraph.--Smkolins 23:30, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Masterless men
[edit]Ah, yes, well, one problem with reading too much in the 18th century is that one can not notice how words change. What I had wanted to write was "magisterial satire" for A Tale of a Tub, but I figured that might be a bit too Latinate. At least I didn't say that it was filled with lucubrations. Geogre 19:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]Please contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationalist movement. It's fallout from a 2006 discussion that you participated in. Uncle G (talk) 00:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
"While it is a fact that he lost 10kg, and suffered a physical collapse". Do you have a reference to these facts? SunCreator (talk) 23:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, I am returning to editing Wikipedia after a lengthy hiatus. This is one of the edits I am following up and have placed this fact back on the Karpov page, since it is pretty illustrative of the stress Anatoly suffered and since it is true. - Knucmo2 (talk) 11:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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3O request declined
[edit]Hi! I've declined your 3O request regarding Paula Vennells, as I don't see that any substantive effort at resolution has been made on the talk-page. In general, your aim should be to de-escalate any disagreement rather than the opposite; ensuring that you remain courteous at all times is a first step towards that. If you're not sure what our recommended practice is for quotations, you could consider asking for input at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
- That's fine. I do not see that the other user will come to any sort of agreement at this stage. But I live in hope. Knucmo2 (talk) 22:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
March 2020
[edit] This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, as you did at User talk:Pigsonthewing, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. The adjectives 'daft' and 'idiotic' are indeed abusive when applied to another editor, as is the noun 'stupidity'. RexxS (talk) 00:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- 1) Daft is not abusive, 'idiotic' could be though it was applied to the content produced. You will note I said, "Don't be daft", which is hardly used in an aggressive sense in the English language. 2) I take issue with the brusque and threatening nature of the comment above, which seems hypocritical given the nature of the issue at hand. WP:PA states that the user (I note that it is not Pigsonthewing) should leave a 'polite' message - the above is not that in the least. Knucmo2 (talk) 20:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- It's a standard warning, given in an attempt to avoid having to sanction you for you incivility. You obviously have no intention of heeding it, as you refuse to accept that "daft" is abusive and so is calling another editor's post "hypocritical". I'm therefore blocking you until you can sort out what is and isn't acceptable in your interactions with other editors. --RexxS (talk) 22:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
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- 1) Error in fact: I did not call the above post 'hypocritical'. I said it seems hypocritical to warn someone for incivility whilst posting, what I deemed, a pretty curt (and escalatory) way of posting a warning on a page (I note that the admin leapt straight to using template Uw-harass4im, and as there are interceding steps in that there are other templates, I deem this choice to be provocative). I would have thought that dispute resolution might be a step worth considering first, as per WP:EQ rather than a block. A further error in this sense is the de-contextualisation of what I wrote: He said I applied the adjective 'idiotic' to the editor - whereas I clearly wrote: 'It looks idiotic if you indent quotations every time they arise'. See below for further explication.
- 2) The admin has committed a fallacy in reasoning: The admin says 'You obviously have no intention of heeding it (the warning)'. This is not true. Although I did exhort user (Pigsonthewing) to not be daft (an idiomatic phrase in English which is not meant in any sense to be uncivil, as in, 'Don't be daft, I'll pay for this round') and said that the content of his edit was 'idiotic' (which I concede is stronger and I should not have used) he has taken this to be representative of subsequent conduct. One finds this to be untrue: Please note that I calmly and civilly referred the edit dispute about Paula Vennells to 3O and Manual of Style - look at my contributions since and judge for yourself whether these are the actions of some wild, reckless churl or someone who calmly went about his business thereafter (e.g. See my reply to 3O's rejection, and please see my edits at Problem of universals and the talk page).
- 3) This is an isolated incident. I was entitled to ask for a justification of the above post and, in my view, I believe the response thus far has been to discipline and punish rather than explain and defuse. Going forward I just wish to get on with editing and collaborating again, as the bulk of my contributions will attest thereto.
- 4) The comment above from myself is not reasonably construed as a personal attack. It is part of the discussion of what the admin put on my page. Consequently, I believe the block was a personal decision made by the administrator and not an evidence-based one. I am happy to admit that better words than 'stupidity' and 'idiotic' (these were applicable to the edit, and not to the editor) were available at time of writing. Knucmo2 (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I think being unblocked is a definite possibility, but I don't see enough here for me to do it at this time. While "daft" can certainly be debated, as we all come from areas where different words have different levels of offensiveness, the other words used and general tone don't indicate to me that as RexxS states, you could still use some introspection as to how you behave towards others and I'm not convinced that you won't use such language in the future. For these reasons, I must decline your request, but I think you could be unblocked if you address these issues to the satisfaction of another administrator. 331dot (talk) 13:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
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RexxS Do you have any comments regarding the request? 331dot (talk) 10:30, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- @331dot: I'm not very happy with it. Here's the diff of the post that I objected to. In that post Knucmo2 called another editor "daft" and that editor's version of an article "idiotic", then used the edit summary "stupidity". Knucmo2 could have made the point about style guides without any of that offensiveness. I considered that a strong warning would be better than an immediate block, so I used a standard template. Instead of an acknowledgement, I was met by an defence of the attacks, compounded by calling my post "hypocritical". The response convinced me that the warning had no effect, hence the block.
- The request begins by claiming that "
I did not call the above post 'hypocritical'
." yet you can see that's exactly what they did: "I take issue with the brusque and threatening nature of the comment above, which seems hypocritical ...
. - Knucmo2 calls my choice of template "provocative".
- Complaining that the application of "idiotic" to the version of the article, but not the editor of that version is wikilawyering. The intent is quite clear.
- Being "
happy to admit that better words than 'stupidity' and 'idiotic' (these were applicable to the edit, and not to the editor) were available at time of writing.
" is well short of any assurance that the episode won't be repeated, and again contains the counterfactual assertion that the attacks were on the edit, not the editor, which I don't accept. They also fail to accept that they cannot call other editors "daft". - I certainly wouldn't unblock if I were reviewing that request.
- Nevertheless, I would like to see Knucmo2 getting back to editing again, although with some circumspection about how they treat other editors in future. --RexxS (talk) 13:14, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
I accept the above comments from 331dot and I also observe the speed with which it was done, so for that, I thank you. What needs to happen from here so I can get back to editing? I ask as I do not wish to presume. Knucmo2 (talk) 14:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- I'd unblock you immediately if you simply gave an assurance that you'll try your level best never to approach another editor again in the manner that you did. --RexxS (talk) 15:48, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Yes, of course. You have my assurance on that. Knucmo2 (talk) 17:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've unblocked your account. Please ping me if you still have any problems editing. --RexxS (talk) 20:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks again, all systems go. Knucmo2 (talk) 22:54, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
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- Thanks a lot Gerda for this, though I am mildly curious as to why "Thanks again, all systems go", is in there? Knucmo2 (talk) 21:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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- The episode leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Best just to leave it at that. --Knucmo2 (talk) 23:49, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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