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The redirect Wiki:stub has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 29 § Wiki:stub until a consensus is reached. Edward-Woodrow • talk 00:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Upmerging stub type to regular stub type?
[edit]I've been working with a stub type that upmerges. There are about 120 stubs, and I thought of making it stand alone as a stub type that is a subcategory. Do I need to propose that somewhere and get permission/consensus? And is there anything I need to know beyond editing the template? Uporządnicki (talk) 20:33, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thank you. I THINK I see the answer there about permission/consensus (although it seems a bit ambiguous). And it's occurred to me, too, that what I need to do in addition to--indeed, BEFORE--editing the stub template is to create the stub category page. Uporządnicki (talk) 02:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- As the template and cat were both approved back in November 2020, its creation isn't a problem, and the formatting looks fine. I'm just curious as to what part of the permission/consensus description seems ambiguous? Her Pegship (?) 04:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Pegship: YOUR PEGSHIP! I'm delighted you chimed in. Since you helped me with some stub category matters before--more than once--I'd thought of asking you directly. But then I decided that wouldn't exactly be cricket.
- It seems incredibly unlikely that you're talking about the situation I'm raising here; it would take copious research, and some VERY lucky guesswork for you to find that out. It's NOT the one you helped me set up a few years ago. I'll fill you in on the details on your talk page, but I'll answer your question about the ambiguity (at least to me) here.
- There's a stub template that, right now, upmerges to a higher category stub. It's well on time to give that upmerged stub its own category. Here's the confusion. On the link User:Redrose64 provided, it says:
- @Pegship: YOUR PEGSHIP! I'm delighted you chimed in. Since you helped me with some stub category matters before--more than once--I'd thought of asking you directly. But then I decided that wouldn't exactly be cricket.
- As the template and cat were both approved back in November 2020, its creation isn't a problem, and the formatting looks fine. I'm just curious as to what part of the permission/consensus description seems ambiguous? Her Pegship (?) 04:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: Thank you. I THINK I see the answer there about permission/consensus (although it seems a bit ambiguous). And it's occurred to me, too, that what I need to do in addition to--indeed, BEFORE--editing the stub template is to create the stub category page. Uporządnicki (talk) 02:16, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, . . .
- But then, under the Speedy Creation heading, it says:
A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:
- S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.
- So, it looks to me as if I am supposed to propose it, as a Speedy Creation (it WILL need creation of a stub category PAGE). If that's correct, I'm wondering how I do that as a Speedy Creation. How do I mark it, and then how long do I wait? Uporządnicki (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, now I think you're thinking about that Pyrausta moth we discussed on your talk page recently. No, I'm done with that, and I've moved on to Beetles. Uporządnicki (talk) 17:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe I talked too much about my questions; I got some comments, but no specific answers There's a stub category that, right now, upmerges to a parent category. I want to remove the upmerge, and have that stub category stand on its own.
- Do I need to propose that on the page for proposing stub categories?
- And if so, how do I mark it as Speedy? Uporządnicki (talk) 22:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- As you noted above, WP:WSS/P says
List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below
, so put it under the "NEW PROPOSALS" subheading. There is no special way of marking it as speedy, just mention it either in the heading or in the text. See for example: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2023/September#Turkish airline stubs; Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2023/July#Yemen geo stubs; Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2022/October#Gujranwala District geography stubs; Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2022/May#More speedy cats; Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2022/March#Speedy creation cats; Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2022/February#French dance bio stubs (pt 2) and Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2022/January#Speedy creation - Danish television stubs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC) - @Redrose64: Thank you. I was looking for an example, but not finding any. Uporządnicki (talk) 01:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe I talked too much about my questions; I got some comments, but no specific answers There's a stub category that, right now, upmerges to a parent category. I want to remove the upmerge, and have that stub category stand on its own.
- Oh, now I think you're thinking about that Pyrausta moth we discussed on your talk page recently. No, I'm done with that, and I've moved on to Beetles. Uporządnicki (talk) 17:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- So, it looks to me as if I am supposed to propose it, as a Speedy Creation (it WILL need creation of a stub category PAGE). If that's correct, I'm wondering how I do that as a Speedy Creation. How do I mark it, and then how long do I wait? Uporządnicki (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Statistics
[edit]I've added some statistical information about typical stubs. See User talk:BilledMammal/Average articles#c-WhatamIdoing-20240818051500-WhatamIdoing-20240818044000 for some of the background. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:08, 23 August 2024 (UTC)