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I'm the environment subheadig hyperlink from Southern highlands and there a citation required for one of the paragraphs. 64.189.18.30 (talk) 04:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- Subheading was what I meant. 64.189.18.30 (talk) 04:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 15:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Untitled topic
[edit]'Over the next three centuries, Spanish expansion enforced Christianity, spread the Spanish language,...'
Iberians, the concept of Spain came years later after colonisation began, with the assistance of native allies toppled the ruling indigenous empires in the early 1500s and established colonies in slivers of the Americas in the first decades of colonisation, far from the entire continent.
It is estimated that as much as 90% of the native population perished due to diseases rather than warfare so these vast areas not under European rule is what allowed native populations to recover in numbers in the subsequent decades.
This allowed ‘mestizos’, who were of mixed ancestry and outnumbered those who were mostly of European ancestry, to thrive and prosper at the expense of those of mainly native ancestry and gradually assimilated the remaining indigenous population spread across the region in a process that lasted centuries and into the 1800s. By then the main demographic of Iberian colonies would have been Westernised mestizos of varying admixture and indigenous peoples, not people of mostly European ancestry.
There are sources that state that around 60% of the Mexican population spoke a native language in the 1820s, Spanish only became widespread in Latin America after the independence wars were over. So it is erroneous to assert and imply that Spanish was imposed instantly in the 1500s and mostly by those of mainly European ancestry. It was in fact a slow gradual process of assimilation that took centuries and mainly carried out by Westernised Latin Americans of varying ancestry, not too dissimilar to how other indigenous languages would have been disseminated as well.
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There's not a single reference to the name "Mēxihcatl Tlacetilīlli Tlahtohcāyōtl", since it has never been the official name in Nahuatl of the United Mexican States. Its official name in Nahuatl according to INALI is "Mexika Sentik Wexteyowalko", as you can read here (vocabulary used for the official Nahuatl version of the Mexican constitution). I suggest you add the Maya official name as well, since it is known as "U Múuchꞌ Péetluꞌumiloꞌob México" according to the official Maya version of the constitution which you can read here. Languae (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please also include the exact location you wish the changes to be made, so there is no room for error. Thank you! ASUKITE 15:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Battle of the Alamo image
[edit]Regarding the image of Robert Jenkins Vanderdonk's Fall of the Alamo (under History -> Independence era (1808 - 1855), I see several issues with the caption. Firstly, the name of the battle in English is Battle of the Alamo, not Battle of El Álamo. Secondly, the description of the battle as being "between the Mexican army led by President Antonio López de Santa Anna and American slavers" is misleading at best. The fact that many of the leaders of the Texian force at the Alamo were slave owners is irrelevant to the battle itself, and the caption leads readers to believe (falsely) that slavery was the root cause of the battle. The Texas Revolution, which was one of many revolts against the Centralist Republic of Mexico, was a reaction against Santa Anna's dissolution of the Constitution of 1824 in 1835. While slavery had been outlawed by Mexico in 1829, the ban was largely ignored, and Mexico never made any attempts to confiscate slaves from the Texians.
The wording in the caption should be modified such that readers aren't misled as to the purpose of the Texas Revolution - a simple change to something like "Battle of The Alamo (1836), between the Mexican army led by President Antonio López de Santa Anna and Texian rebels" should suffice. 2601:C0:CA80:A5E0:4CF1:7EA1:62F9:A6DE (talk) 17:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- That stood out to me too. As written it suggests that the Texians were attempting to enslave the Mexicans. Ought to be changed to "Texian rebels," and those wishing to learn more about the origins of the Texas revolution can be linked to the appropriate article. Jbt89 (talk) 05:28, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Both the title of the battle and the "American enslavers" bit in the Onderdonk caption are inaccurate. This is an American English article. "El Alamo" is not consistent with the language convention. The title of the painting for which this is a caption is "Fall of the Alamo," an accurate title if not an accurate representation of the event. Santa Anna's siege of the Alamo laid siege to Tejanos, Irish and Englishmen, as well as American men from the northern and southern United States, inside the walls. A few are known to have owned slaves. The vast majority, no.
- Additionally, the image should be credited as "Fall of the Alamo" by Robert Jenkins Onderdonk, 1903. The Teocali work should be attributed to Leutze (1848), Three Guaranties credited to Bastin, Thomas & Richauld (1842).
- Re: Vicente Guerrero - It should be noted that while he did use emergency power to issue a decreto abolishing slavery, the Isthmus of Tehuantepec was exempted (Mexico was seeking to import slaveowners to cultivate the region) and that Tejano leaders in Texas sought exemption and received it. It was not enforced and was thrown out when Guerrero left. Mexico did not unconditionally abolish slavery until 1837. Cbptx (talk) 01:19, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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Remove three agglomeration sentence as it does not have a source. 64.189.18.31 (talk) 20:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 20:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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Descitoions of region by temepeoaution requires citation or should be removed. 64.189.18.51 (talk) 23:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done: because I don't know what "Descitoions of region by temepeoaution" are. Largoplazo (talk) 23:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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Mexico is not in north America 2600:100C:B2F6:FF60:0:24:5C51:1A01 (talk) 04:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done: See North_America#Definitions. By most official and accepted definitions, Mexico is indeed in North America. General Ization Talk 04:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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dont know what the fix is but there's something confusing at: "When it the 2026 FIFA World Cup" 2603:8000:D300:3650:35EE:D3B8:AB51:D0F3 (talk) 00:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 11:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]@Chronus: 15k is not a magical cutoff between terrible and perfect - 14.9k is still in need of work. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:21, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria It's not you who determines that. It's the rules. Chronus (talk) 04:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Chronus: There is not a rule that the tag must be removed the instant the article falls a single word below 15k. As per Wikipedia:Summary_style#Article_size: "generally 50 kilobytes of readable prose (8,000 words) is the starting point at which articles may be considered too long. Articles that go above this have a burden of proof that extra text is needed to efficiently cover their topics and that the extra reading time is justified". See also WP:COUNTRYSIZE. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria It's funny how this kind of absurd editing doesn't bother you at all, but at the same time, you're super strict about the length of articles, even though the project rules say that this article length is not an aberration to earn an undue tag. Chronus (talk) 04:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Chronus: There is not a rule that the tag must be removed the instant the article falls a single word below 15k. As per Wikipedia:Summary_style#Article_size: "generally 50 kilobytes of readable prose (8,000 words) is the starting point at which articles may be considered too long. Articles that go above this have a burden of proof that extra text is needed to efficiently cover their topics and that the extra reading time is justified". See also WP:COUNTRYSIZE. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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