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August 30

Submitting written, verified information.

How can I submit written, verified information to Wikipedia. 2001:FB1:E2:4B82:242C:B10C:995F:C625 (talk) 01:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

How to submit a verified article about Ion Electrolyte to Wikipedia via email? 2001:FB1:E2:4B82:242C:B10C:995F:C625 (talk) 01:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

You cannot sumbit Wikipedia articles via email. You must create the article on Wikipedia. I would not reccomend creating an article as an IP adress editor though. MacaroniPizzaHotDog (talk) 03:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not accept submitted "written, verified information". Information in Wikipedia must come from published, reliable sources. See WP:RS.-Arch dude (talk) 05:09, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Are users allowed to falsely claim they are banned on their userpage if they mark it as a joke?

Hey I was just reaching out because I was wondering policy-wise if users are prevented, if they present it as a joke, from claiming they are banned from Wikipedia on their userpage when they are actually not even blocked. I don't want to post to ANI because I am uncertain specifically on policy justification and I think that is unnecessary escalation at this point.

User:Justcgi explicitly put a ban notice on their userpage saying they were banned indefinitely by both Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation which I removed because they were actually appearing in the Banned Users category due to using official ban templates (the only reason I found out is because they used the wrong template and were appearing in the temporary ban category). I told them not to do that and gave them a warning.

Their userpage has a notice again saying they are banned by the Wikimedia Foundation but it does not use an official ban template and it is clearly marked as humorous now.

I feel like that is still not something that user should be doing because it is confusing, but I don't know of a policy justification for why it's not allowed so I don't know if I can remove that again and escalate to a second level warning. [1] (current version) [2] (the original version with the ban template I gave the warning about). --Thebirdlover (talk) 05:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Both this user page and this (one-year-old) sandbox edit suggest to me that the user is very young.-- Hoary (talk) 06:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Eh, I was younger than the linked edit would indicate the user is now when I started out 14 years ago and I'd say I was more responsible. I think someone that age might act a little goofier and do things they regret, I know there are quite a few things I did starting out in hindsight I think were cringe now. However, I definitely believe it is still possible to be mature and a strong contributor at that age. So I don't completely think immaturity and youthfulness is an excuse. Definitely, a mitigating factor but not the end all be all. --Thebirdlover (talk) 06:29, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. -- Hoary (talk) 07:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

EDIT REVERT

This with reference to my contribution in editing a detail about the active political party which is shown dissolved and also spelling of one of the founder is wrong which we have corrected. you are requested to please incorporate requested edits as it's hindering our presence and work. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 07:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not interested in the work of your political party, but please offer independent reliable sources that discuss the existence of your party. Please also see your user talk page about conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 07:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I beg to differ, i never said it's my party at the first place, please refrain from making such remarks. I am editing as a part of a community. a reliable source is again the internet/books published/active people working for it. i am afraid how to rely when i see few crucial inputs are published wrong and community being resistance to look into the matter. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 15:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

According to the article, OmGanGanpataye, Bharatiya Jana Sangh lost its separate identity back in 1977. Is this mistaken? But you seem far more interested in altering the spelling of "Mukherjee" in Syama Prasad Mukherjee (incidentally, a Good Article) to "Mookerjee". (The alteration has already been made within that article -- see Talk:Syama Prasad Mukherjee/Archive 1) but not to the title.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Preview

I'm wondering why on Swiss Journal of Economics and Statistics the file doesn't show on the preview. Is it the size? Or something else? Nobody (talk) 09:54, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@1AmNobody24: It's the size. width × height of the uploaded file must be either at least 320 × 200 px or 203 × 250 px. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks PrimeHunter, Never done it before, but I'll try to resize it. Nobody (talk) 10:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Resizing worked for most of them. For File:Swiss Journal of Sociology.jpg I don't know the solution. Nobody (talk) 17:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Doubts regarding using photos from this wiki in another one

Greetings to everyone! Hope you are all having a great day!

Today i come to you with some questions regarding the usage of pictures as mentioned above. My situation is as it follows: i come from the catalan wikipedia and a few months ago i was reading random articles here and came across British U-class submarine, and decided to translate it all. For now i still have plenty of work to do, but i'm managin to keep going except for one thing, the badges. In any article of a sub of that class your wiki displays on the tables the badge of the ship, but i have not been able to use them on my wiki, unlike all the other images that i can use without any problem whatsoever. I asked on my wiki's forum but didn't get an straight answer besides that it's not uploaded to wikimedia but just wikipedia or smth like that, but nothing besides that or how to solve it.

So that's why i came here today, to see if someone here knowledgable in the licenses and wikimedia topic could shed some light onto why i might be coming across this issue and how to solve it, for i'd really like to include those pics on the translations. I'm fully aware that this might not be the right place to ask, for this is not my wiki after all and you might not know how it works (tbh neither do I) or what's causing it there; but any guidance, advice or link to a forum/page/article would be so appreciated.

Thank you for your time and take care!

PS: sorry for the typos and possible bleeding eyes, wrote this quickly Llapis (talk) 10:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Llapis: File:UNIVERSAL badge-1-.jpg is a non-free image so the use is restricted. Wikimedia Commons is a shared file repository for Wikimedia wikis but it doesn't allow non-free files at all. That means the image has to be uploaded separately to each wiki which wants to use it. Wikipedia languages can have different rules for use of non-free images. I don't know Catalan but there is a page at ca:Viquipèdia:Continguts no lliures. You have to work out how to give the required license information in Catalan if you upload it there. You can edit File:UNIVERSAL badge-1-.jpg to see what the English Wikipedia does but Catalan may be different. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

generalleutnant friedrich- wilhelm muller.

This German officer was executed in 1947 having being found guilty of ordering executions of civilian hostages on Crete during the second world war. Executed by firing squad - 'deemed to be an Honourable Death. Why was he not hanged - fitting ( as how the German leaders during the War were executed after being found guilty at the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials )? 92.15.61.98 (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

For reference Friedrich-Wilhelm Müller Knitsey (talk) 13:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

This is a question for the folks at the reference desks - WP:RD/H most likely. 57.140.16.35 (talk) 13:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

He was sentenced by a Greek court. Maybe Greek law specified firing squad. Maproom (talk) 14:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Maproom is correct. According to Capital punishment in Greece, the firing squad became the only approved method of execution in Greece in 1929 and the last execution was in 1972. The death penalty has since been abolished. Cullen328 (talk) 20:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Brian Lamb

Hello. I was watching C-Span Washington Journal this morning (August 30 2024) and at the end of the program they announced that Brian Lamb was retiring from C-Span today if I understood correctly. I found this interesting because I am retiring today as well. I thought perhaps this needs to be verified and updated somehow in the Wikipedia biography of him. Thank you. Collabria (talk) 15:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little confused, as I can find sources saying he retired today, and also that he retired five years ago. [3][4]. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 18:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

As with rock stars and Wikipedia editors, retirements are not always permanent. Cullen328 (talk) 20:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

He's also still doing the Booknotes+ Podcast, so he is still making content for CSPAN even with this "retirement" announcement. But he's had three retirements. He had one in 2012 as CEO, a 2019 retirement where he stopped doing on-air appearances other than the podcast but it sounds like was continuing to doing other work for the company behind the scenes. This 2024 retirement seems like he is now dropping everything else he was still involved in and just focusing on the podcast now. So, it sounds like he has been slowly lessening his workload over the past 12 years, but confusingly seems to make an announcement about it each time he does cut something out. --Thebirdlover (talk) 21:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Collabria: Congratulations on your retirement! I hope it's a long and happy one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I accidentally messed up the Wikipedia page for Earth Zero/Htrae/Bizarro World if anyone could fix it please do, thank you!

the Wikipedia page for Earth Zero/Htrae/Bizarro World says it has to many <ref> or something so I tried fixing it but I just messed it up even more 207.5.25.184 (talk) 16:06, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello IP! If this is about List of DC Multiverse worlds, I have reverted back to the version before you went in the ref tag. What were you trying to do? —asparagusus (interaction) ^sprouts! 16:13, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Updating Search result information

How do I update the information that shows on google about a Wiki item? I edited the page where that information lives but on google it shows the incorrect information. Sajacobsen (talk) 20:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia and its editors have no control over when search engines update information once they have started indexing pages. However, in my experience, articles here are updated very quickly after a new edit has been made. If I were you, I'd wait 24 hours to see what happens. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Incidentally, in your recent edits to Severance, Colorado you removed a citation without explanation other than your edit summary "We are the town of Severance and I am updating this information on behalf of the Town of Severance management." This suggests you have a conflict of interest and are, in Wikipedia's terms, a WP:PAID editor. This means you edit is likely to be reverted and also means you should make the mandtory paid editing disclosure, as explained at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Sajacobsen, also, the unsourced zip codes you added disagree with the USPS zip lookup site, so I removed them. I also remoed the town rule type, as well as the population figures, which did not agree with the source previously in the article (dating to 2009). This information may be updated by any editor without a conflict by adding it back in, along with a citation to a reliable source. If you wish to change it, please start a new discussion at Talk:Severance, Colorado, explain the situation, and ask for someone else to update the page. Mathglot (talk) 04:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

August 31

Immediate delete request

Hi

I was done some mistake when i created profile..it waa wrongly editted wirh other profile.. how to solve thar Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 01:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

If you are talking about the page User:Shiyas P Ummer, you may have it deleted (almost) immediately by adding {{db-g7}} somewhere on the page, and saving (Publishing) the page. Mathglot (talk) 03:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Add missing ping. Mathglot (talk) 03:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted it. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 03:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks i am sorry for my mistake ..understanding better and more Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 03:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Just Step Sideways, it's still there. Mathglot (talk) 04:30, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Mathglot, SPU recreated it after the deletion. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, I was wondering about that... I thought that leaves a trace, in a several lines-high pink-bg banner, but I didn't see that, nor did I see anything in the edit history. Doesn't a delete leave some sort of trace?

User:Shiyas P Ummer, was the wrong page deleted, is that why you recreated your user page with the same content? Mathglot (talk) 04:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

You want me to delete? Shiyas P Ummer (talk) 04:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. This isn't a platform for self-promotion. Not in article space. Not on your user page. Not anywhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Well, that was some odd behavior. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 15:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Donate without filling out information. Users want to donate with total anonymity

Suggestion to have an option as a payment mode for donations anonymously. 2405:201:D001:299C:5533:D0C2:8975:3E4D (talk) 04:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Two things for you to consider, IP editor. First, the volunteer editors on the English Wikipedia have nothing to do with the paid fundraising staffers at the Wikimedia Foundation. We have literally nothing to do with them except that we sometimes argue with them about what many editors believe to be their deceptive fundraising tactics. As for anonymous donations, you could put a US $20.00 bill in an envelope and mail it to their San Francisco address, but how would you know that some mail room clerk would not put it in their pocket and buy a cheap bottle of whiskey with it after work that day? As for cryptocurrency, it is a gigantic house of cards resembling a Ponzi sceme. Making your donation through established online channels gives you a reasonable assurance that your donation of actual genuine currency as opposed to something imaginary and rife with fraud will be allocated properly. Cullen328 (talk) 05:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

"We have literally nothing to do with them except that we sometimes argue with them about what many editors believe to be their deceptive fundraising tactics. " Speak for yourself. Some of us discuss things with them cordially and positively, and appreciate what they do. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:03, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Ironically, if you wish to remain anonymous here you should have created an account rather than reveal the name of your company through your IP address. Before you go any further I suggst you study Internet privacy. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

See https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give. You can mail a money order as a donation. My understanding is you can purchase these for cash at the post office or other places anonymously. Traveller's cheque may be another option, but you need to sign those, so not completely anonymous depending on how legible your signature is. RudolfRed (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Tom Taylor (Yorkshire cricketer)

i have tried to add a commons file (old house photo) at the end of this article (2nd last paragrah). I got it all wrong . Please fix if you can. thanks 175.38.37.197 (talk) 05:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Done:[5] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

templatedata not showing up

i have added templatedata to Template:Infobox card game. why isn't it showing up when editing, say, whist? ltbdl☃ (talk) 08:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm not seeing any edit by you to Template:Infobox card game either in its history or in your contributions. ColinFine (talk) 10:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

templatedata is contained in the documentation. ltbdl☃ (talk) 10:56, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think changing the documentation makes any difference to the template itself. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

it does. see e.g. {{infobox person}}. ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

"Lua error: too many expensive function calls." in references

Hello, I'm currently in the process of replacing the unusual links to the German Wikipedia in the article List of Gothic brick buildings in Germany by interlanguage links using the Template:Interlanguage link (you had to click on "(DE)" in this article). I've already done a good half of the work. However, I've now noticed a lot of "Lua error: too many expensive function calls." in the references section of this article. What happened here? It seems the first occurrence of these errors started with this modification, which seems completely valid to me. Cyfal (talk) 08:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cyfal: The page is in Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls. A page is only allowed 500 expensive function calls. Each {{ill}} makes an ifexist check for an English article and ifexist is one of the expensive functions. There are 510 {{ill}} on the page. It has to be reduced. There is no way to bypass the limit. There might also be other expensive functions on the page. "Parser profiling data" at the bottom of a preview window shows the total number but may stop counting if 500 is passed. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, PrimeHunter, especially for the deeper explanation of what the {{ill}} does. So I will have to remove my neatly interlanguage links again... Well, then there's nothing I can do to avoid this. --Cyfal (talk) 11:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

you could split the page. it's already really long. ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

You are right, but I think for a list it's ok - and I also want to keep the scheme of the German counterpart and of List of Gothic brick buildings in Poland and List of Gothic brick buildings in the Netherlands. --Cyfal (talk) 21:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Cyfal, for interlanguage links, you don't have to use {{ill}}. You can link the de.wp articles using regular interwiki links like [[:de:Article title]]. Folly Mox (talk) 21:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

For clarity, this should vastly reduce the parser overhead, since interwiki links are not checked for existence. Folly Mox (talk) 21:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes I know, I'm already in the process of reinstating such links again in in the List of Gothic brick buildings in Germany. --Cyfal (talk) 21:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

That technically works, but it can be problematic because many who do that tend to WP:PIPE such links as [[:de:Article title|Article title]] which makes it seem as if an English Wikipedia about the link target exists when it doesn't. It also sends readers to a non-English Wikipedia article when they're most likely not expecting it. For such reasons, using {{ill}} seems to be encouraged as best practice per H:FOREIGNLINK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

{{ill}} is problematic in its own ways too: display of non-ASCII glyphs in URLs displayed on hover or long press is browser-dependent, so for languages that don't use the Latin alphabet, readers on some browsers are forced to navigate off the website to the sister project just to retrieve the native name of the linked article.

Piping raw interwiki links is almost always an easter egg (unless super obviously not an English term) and hence not best practice, but for articles in non-Latin scripts the information behind them is much more accessible. Folly Mox (talk) 07:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Cyfal: Perhaps instead of piping "DE", it would be better to pipe "German Wikipedia article" since that seems easier for readers to understand. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Cyfal: I examined the documentation and Template:Interlanguage link#Forcing links could be used for some or all of the links. This would avoid the expensive ifexist check by always linking both an English and German page whether or not the English page exists. Other parts of the page only have 6 expensive function calls. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I will then use this parameter, that will both then avoid the usage of "DE" or "German Wikipedia article" and save me a lot of work! --Cyfal (talk) 06:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Naming conventions for churches

Somewhere I am sure I have seen policy/guidance/naming convention proposals on the preferred way to title articles about churches. My memory tells me that the format, St X's Church, Borchester is preferred to Church of St X, Borchester. But I cannot remember where I have seen this. It is also possible I've asked this question previously, in which case apologies. Either way, if anyone could point me in the direction of the relevant documentation, I should be very grateful. KJP1 (talk) 08:44, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Forget this. A search of the archive, which I should have done first, shows that I asked the question in 2019,[6] and there isn't a convention/policy. KJP1 (talk) 08:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, KJP1. I am unaware of any such church specific naming convention. As I see it, the relevant guideline is WP:COMMONNAME. So, take a look at the full range of reliable sources discussing the church and use what most reliable sources use. In your example, I venture to guess that the sources will not use "Borchester" in the way you did, because the reader of the source will detect that in context, if, perhaps, the source is the "Borchester Gazette" if such a publication exists. So, use the name most commonly used by reliable independent sources, and add a disambiguating parenthetical only as needed to distinguish this particular church from other churches with very similar names. Cullen328 (talk) 09:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

As an example, I am the original author of Holy Virgin Cathedral, not because I am Russian Orthodox but because I am interested in the architecture of San Francisco. I did not need to add "San Francisco" to the title, because there are no other Wikipedia articles about any other "Holy Virgin Cathedrals". Cullen328 (talk) 09:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Cullen328 - Many thanks for getting back, and for the advice which is most helpful. The problem with English/Welsh churches is that so many do have the same names. The number of St Mary's Church, Xplace runs into the hundreds. Then, when you look at the sources, and our articles, you can find; St Mary's Church, Church of St Mary, Parish Church of St Mary, Priory Church of St Mary, Cathedral Church of St Mary, Church of St Mary & St Michael, Church of St Mary and All Saints... and on and on. But I think your advice holds good most of the time: what's the common/most commonly used name, and is a disambiguater required? KJP1 (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Converting music score png to Lilypond

I'd be most grateful for help in converting this file into Lilypond for use in the article Much Binding in the Marsh, to replace the png file, which we are advised should be succeeded by a score file.

Tim riley talk 14:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Tim riley: I think this mostly works:

I'm not sure why the stem of the final g half-note insists on going down; I'll try to fix that, but hopefully this will work as a rough stand-in for now. Cremastra (talk) 14:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

It will certainly do me! Thank you so much. I am full of admiration for your skill. Tim riley talk 15:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

• Fixed the stem issue; I'll update the article. Cremastra (talk) 15:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

How can I add a official photo of Debashish Bhattacharya

Addition of the photo in the Wikipedia profile. Chaturangui (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Chaturangui.

First question: are you connected with Bhattacharya? If you are, you should be aware of Wikipedia's advice on editing with a conflict of interest. If, further, you are in any way employed or remunerated in connection with Bhattacharya, then Wikipedia regards you as a paid editor, and you must make the formal declaration explained in that link.

As to the image: it depends on the copyright status of the image you want to add. If the copyright owner (who is usually the photographer, not the subject) has explicitly released the image under a suitable copyleft license such as CC-BY-SA, then you (or anyone) may upload the image to Wikimedia Commons and add it to an article. If they haven't, and they won't release it, it may not be possible. Please see Help:Upload. ColinFine (talk) 16:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Page refreshing

Hey there! I want to ask, that there are some of refreshed infromations on my wiki page, but there is written that somebody has to admit to be seenable if anybody are searching for my name. Can tell me what’s the problame whit it? Moncsessz (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Which article are you referring to? AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

hu:Horváth Mónika. Moncsessz (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the English-language Wikipedia. If you want help with the Hungarian-language one, you need to ask over there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Can you link it? Because i did not found it! Moncsessz (talk) 15:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

You could try here. hu:Wikipédia:Kocsmafal (kezdőknek) There doesn't seem to be a help desk, but this looks to be something similar, at least from what Google translate makes of it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Resistance from correcting a fact and publish

Sir, This is with reference to the Akhil Bhartiya Jansangh Wikipedia page. I read a book about the founder Syama Prasad Mookherjee and got curious to look into the wikipedia and found out few corrections. I am not claiming anything privately, it's the fact which is published wrong and as a community it's my duty to request a correction. Please suggest a way forward considering all the guidelines are followed strictly. i will be happy to adhere. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Discuss it on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I've already told you, provide sources and don't "fix" what doesn't need fixing. - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 20:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

i want to know the reason of your resistance, please talk to the point; my intent of correcting a fact have made clear with every response. OmGanGanpataye (talk) 07:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Discuss the matter on the article's talk page; and if it happens to be about the spelling "Mukherjee", then point people to the earlier discussion at Talk:Syama Prasad Mukherjee/Archive 1. Incidentally, there are many women here; they may be surprised to be addressed as "Sir" (however politely and amicably intended). -- Hoary (talk) 22:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

create an article in sandbox. couldn't publish it and now it has disappeared

Is there a way to find out how to publish on this platform. I created a page for happiness4beginners. It was in sandbox, I couldn't figure out how to publish it. Apparently, it was not saved in sandbox and now it has disappeared. I see questions to my mentor but they are all unanswered. Happiness4Beginners (talk) 17:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Blocked, user was promoting their YouTube channel of the same name. 331dot (talk) 17:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Using live data templates inside Syntax Highlight

I'd like to add some common templates to my user page for easy copy/paste into articles, manually filling in the missing fields.

I'm doing this with Template:syntaxhighlight like so:

cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |access-date= |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote=

Is there any way to inject "live data" into the syntax highlight pre-formatted text?

I'd like to include the current date like so: September 2, 2024

But using the template, that shows |date={{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}

How can I add the always-updating live date to the template? PK-WIKI (talk) 17:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Did you mean to use |date=? Or or did you mean |access-date=?

I don't think that you can have 'live' elements inside <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight> tags. You might do something like this:

<code><nowiki>{{cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote=</nowiki> |access-date={{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}}}</code>

{{cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote= |access-date=September 2, 2024}}

Remember that the magic words aren't 'live' so with this method, your user page may require a null edit or purge to update them.

Magic words can be subst'd, but alas, substing doesn't work inside <ref>...</ref> tags. If you are not using the cs1|2 template in <ref>...</ref> tags (list defined referencing) then you might try:

{{cite news |last= |first= |date= |title= |url= |work=[[The New York Times]] |url-access=subscription |access-date={{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTDAY}}, {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} |archive-url= |archive-date= |url-status=live |quote=}}</code>

"Title". The New York Times. Retrieved August 31, 2024.

this 'live' example modified to suppress cs1|2 errors

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on 2024 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence

Reference help requested. How to use this bot? Thanks, ZeetBaralWiki 20:57, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Cross-wiki abuse

My talk and user pages on Wikisource (which I don't use, by the way) are being targeted with personal attacks. I know en.wikipedia isn't the place to report this, but can someone direct me to the Wikisource equivalent of WP:AIV? I know the attacks are coming from a long-time abuse user on a logged-out IP address which has banned on en.wikipedia. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@GeorgeMemulous: wikisource:Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard says "This is also the place to report vandalism or request an administrator's help." But is it about the English Wikisource? I don't see edits to your user or talk page there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:33, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing me to that! I think the pages have since been removed by a Wikisource or meta admin, but both my user and talk pages were defaced with personal attacks for a time. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 23:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I found the issue: en.wikisource.org is separate from wikisource.org.

My wikisource.org page is currently defaced. I can't find an equivalent, so for now, I'll ask at the en Wikisource page you linked. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 02:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@GeorgeMemulous: I didn't know Wikisource has a common wiki for all languages, unlike Wikipedia. I see your user and talk page have been deleted and create-protected now. I hope the vandal doesn't find another way to harass you. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

WIKIWAND

Can someone tell me why when I click on wikipedia.org I am taken to wikiwand? I want to be taken to wikipedia.com not wikiwand. It's very annoying.

Thank you Ellen Marchese emarches at live dot com Emarches (talk) 23:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Emarches: Maybe your browser has a Wikiwand extension. Do you know how to see and disable extensions in your browser? If not then what is your browser? If you don't have a Wikiwand extension then where do you click on wikipedia.org when you're taken to Wikiwand? Please give an example link. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Emarches: Wikiwand is a commercial browser extension that you or someone added to your browser on your computer, intentionally or unintentionally. It is not associated with Wikipedia or with the Wikimedia Foundation and we do not get any benefit from the advertisements it adds or the tracking cookies it puts on your computer. If you did not add it on purpose or if you no longer want to use it, you should remove it. You can google for "how to remove wikiwand" to get instructions for that. -Arch dude (talk) 17:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

September 1

Help with coordinates

Im creating a new article but the coordinates doesnt work. It shows the wrong location. At the bottom: User:Supreme_Deliciousness/misc

33.02163810199814, 35.80560072280436 https://www.google.se/maps/place/Horvat+Ramthaniya/@33.0194791,35.8143555,14z/data=!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x151ea86dae7bdc5f:0xe12ffe365d6c370a!2sGolanh%C3%B6jderna!3b1!8m2!3d33.0155854!4d35.784354!16zL20vMDNjZHo!3m5!1s0x151ea912c593ee31:0xf04f21d5bc533be5!8m2!3d33.020078!4d35.805434!16s%2Fg%2F1tjh1lzg?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MDgyOC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 00:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Supreme Deliciousness: 33.02163810199814, 35.80560072280436 are in decimal. I have converted them to DMS (degrees-minutes-seconds).[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 01:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Unable to Create External Link

When entering the external link as [URL text-to-use] it displays backwards. The page is at:

Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star\Aircraft on Display\United States\P-80C

Shows as:

• 47-0221 – Redesignated US Navy TV-1 33824 at [https://wingsoffreedommuseum.org/ Wings of Freedom Museum] Horsham, Pennsylvania]].

Please indicate how to correct the link. Voyager88 (talk) 03:12, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Voyager88. There are three problems here. First, you have included inappropriate nowiki tags within your external link. See Template:Nowiki for the documentation. There are two bigger problems. The page you are linking to does not mention the plane in question. The biggest problem is that external links do not belong in the body of an article. You should create a reference that actually verifies the content instead. Cullen328 (talk) 03:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply:

Inappropriate Nowiki tags - thanks, but I couldn’t figure out how to correct it. Can you please provide guidance?

Page doesn’t mention the plane in question - I linked the website homepage. I can change it to the page that mentions the plane in question. On the other hand, all the other external links go the website home page, as I did.

External links do not belong in the body of an article - I am only adding one line (47-0221) to a long list that contains similar external links. Voyager88 (talk) 04:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Voyager88, regarding your third point - just because other people have done something incorrectly doesn't mean you should do it too! However, I don't see any other external links in the list; it looks to me like the other links are to Wikipedia articles (not website home pages), which are not external and are encouraged. If I've missed one, please do point it out.

For the moment I've reverted your edit; you need a reliable source to verify your addition, as Cullen328 mentions. Once you have that, have a look at how the other redesignations have been listed and see whether you can copy those to create the one you wish to add. StartGrammarTime (talk) 07:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

I see no other direct external links in the text of Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star. Maproom (talk) 07:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Voyager88: Your edit [8] used VisualEditor when you tried to add the link. VisualEditor hides the underlying code and only displays the result. And the user doesn't type code like link brackets in VisualEditor but uses its own features to make code. It has a chain icon to add a link but as said above, an external link shouldn't have been added there at all. In case you don't know, external link generally means a link going to another website, not Wikipedia itself. The other items in the list only display internal links in the list itself. Some of them have an allowed external link in a reference but it's displayed in the references section. VisualEditor has a pencil icon at the top right to switch to the source editor where code can be seen and edited directly. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you all for your help. This is my first post. I changed the external link to an internal link and added a citation from AirHistory.net. It looks correct now. Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do. Voyager88 (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Guidelines on chemistry solubility?

On the MoS for line equations it merely says "Do not include phase definitions unless they are absolutely essential". Normally, the states of matter as written as, for example, AgCl(s), but on the silver chloride page the precipitate is written as a down arrow for 2 equations and with a subscript for the remaining. Does Wikipedia have a preferred style?

Also, on some pages, like silver phosphate, as well as the main article for solubility product, the solubility product is written with units at the end of it, when it is usually treated as a dimensionless quantity. Is there a preferred style?

Sorry if this is the wrong place btw SecretSpectre (talk) 07:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention to detail. Since Wikipedia is edited by thousands of volunteers, all working on what they choose, we often end up with inconsistencies (which some people, such as yourself) want to mitigate.

I think you might find an answer (or ask the question) at WP:WikiProject Chemistry. ColinFine (talk) 08:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks SecretSpectre (talk) 08:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@SecretSpectre The silver chloride article was promoted to good article status as recently as February this year. The reviewer was User:Reconrabbit, who may now comment. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@SecretSpectre, silver chloride was one of if not the first of the good articles I've reviewed and I learned a lot since then. I don't know how it's preferred to write out the phase but I'm familiar with both ${\ce {(v)}}$ and (s) being used to denote a precipitate, and since the reaction in that article is specifically interested in the formation of a precipitate it seemed appropriate. The more modern {{Chem2}} template doesn't seem to support the down arrow so maybe it's been deprecated. These are more questions for the more experienced wikiproject chemistry users. Reconrabbit 15:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Lower Alveolar Consonants

I was scrolling through the extIPA page and noticed that one of Manners of Articulation was labeled “Alveolar (Lower)” (there is also a Lower Alveolar consonant mentioned in the lists of sounds on the page). However, when I searched the term, there was nothing on it. Does anyone now what it is and how to articulate it? Also, how is there no Wikipedia page on this topic? 2600:6C4A:1840:20:2000:5D07:6D30:9078 (talk) 20:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, I agree that there is not much information on Wikipedia about this subject. I suggest that you ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language, which tries to answer more general questions. TSventon (talk) 21:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Ideally, that term would cite a source, but that whole article is woefully short of sources. I have tagged it. ColinFine (talk) 10:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

September 2

Biological

Who’s the father of Ingrid child in Vikings movie 105.113.40.254 (talk) 00:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, this isn't a general help desk, this is to ask about using Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 00:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

We have articles on two movies called The Viking, two called Viking, and one called The Vikings: we don't have an article on one called "Vikings", and I presume you aren't asking about the two TV series (one documentary, one drama) called Vikings, or the latter's sequel Vikings: Valhalla (see Viking (disambiguation)). There appears to be a further recent film Vikings: Revenge and/or The Viking Revenge about which we do not yet have an article.

Please ask again at the Entertainment Reference desk and specify which movie (or series) you are referring to. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.209.45 (talk) 05:01, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Melicytus orarius

Reference help requested.

I find it difficult to parse the error which the bot noted that I introduced. I don't understand what is wrong, and the bare url page that was shared to explain the error was very long and confusing.

Thanks, Richlitt (talk) 00:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Does the help link at the reference (permalink) not answer your question? If not, what is it about the help text is not helpful?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

The error message said "Missing or empty |title=". I've fixed it by adding the title of the page you cited. Maproom (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Death of Ann Grocott

I am the daughter of Ann Grocott. Sadly Ann passed away on 7th April 2024. I would like her Wikipedia page updated. As her sole executor, I hold the Grant of Probate and am able to provided documentation to support this, such as a copy of her death certificate. Could you please advise what you require to update her Wikipedia page. Kind Regards, Nicolle Fogarty Nikkifogarty (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

It does not matter if you are her daugher or not, can you cite this claim? MacaroniPizzaHotDog (talk) 03:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I am sorry to hear this, Nikkifogarty. As MacaroniPizzaHotDog suggests, the standard way to effect such an edit is to cite a reputable published source for it. As I look, I find this Facebook post. We normally avoid citing Facebook posts, but at a stretch we might be able to use this one, as its writer/poster seems to know what she's talking about here. But let's put it aside for now. Can you point us to any published reference for your mother's death? This wouldn't have to be on the web; it could be on paper only. (If not, there's yet another avenue.) -- Hoary (talk) 04:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Nikkifogarty: I'm very sorry for your loss. One option is that you could send a scan or photo of a death certificate to info-en-vwikimedia.org. That mailbox is staffed by volunteers and there is at times a backlog, so the response may not be immediate. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

BLP policy

@Hoary and Pigsonthewing: would it be possible to add some advice to WP:BLP about this? There was some inconclusive discussion here in February 2024. TSventon (talk) 16:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

That's not really a suitable page to which article subjects or their representatives should be directed. We have WP:About you and WP:FAQAS. Note that a death certificate is not "self published". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Correct etiquette for problematic talk page comment

I was adding a talk post to the Talk:History of espionage and the only other comment feels somewhat racist.The title is "Excessive use of foreign words." They are arguing that the use of foreign words such as "shinobi" should be removed. I feel that I don't have the authority to remove it as a novice wikipedia editor, but it also feels like the kind of thing that should be removed. What is the best course of action when you see something that feels borderline and needs a second opinion? Spicygarbage (talk) 04:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

You might be interested in Wikipedia:Offensive speech#Dealing with offensive speech. It doesn't look bad enough for {{redacted}}, and remember to assume good faith, they might just not understand those words. You can just reply to the comment, letting them know why it could be racist. Other editors who watchlist the page may intervene after, and the OP might retract, fix their mistake or clarify.

Don't remove the comment; only do so in cases of blantant personal attacks, vandalism or trolling. You can read more at WP:OTHERSCOMMENTS. Have a good day! win8x (talking | spying) 04:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

The writer seems to be making a plea for simple, unpretentious language. It's a reasonable point. I haven't bothered to check if the examples given really are there (e.g. if shinobi actually appears); if not, this should be pointed out in the response. Assuming for a moment that yes, the article is indeed riddled with fancy language, I don't think the writer makes the plea either persuasively or very helpfully, but I don't find the message offensive or racist in the slightest. I see no reason to remove it. -- Hoary (talk) 04:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

The writer would, I think, have a point if these foreign language words (they instance "mstovaris, shinobi, Pochtecas, quimitchin, etc.") were used without any explanation (I for one had never encountered any of them before), but it does appear that they are all either wikilinked to relevant articles or explained within the text: if any are not, however, they should be. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.1.209.45 (talk) 05:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

AfC

So, if I understand correctly, any undisclosed paid company can WP:BOGOF? Just make a draft about a notable person full of promo and fluff, have another account ignore much of the content review steps and publish it to mainspace and then if nothing happens within 90 days it cannot be returned to draft status and we need to have a full AfD (which will fail because the person is notable and AfD is not cleanup) so the only option left is a full rewrite by a neutral Wikipedian who does not care about the subject of the article and probably knows nothing about it so they have to waste a lot of time doing research (or ignore the fact that the horrible article exists, which is what 99% seem to do, which exacerbates the problem).

I have seen this loophole been exploited quite a few times already, and its probably the tip of the iceberg. So we need to be able to return trash back to draft. If it went through AfC (which is meaningless as quality control) and how old it is (it can take a long time until a volunteer notices the article who is willing to fix the problems) should be irrelevant. Polygnotus (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I must be missing something, right? Is it really this easy to publish trash into the mainspace and have everyone ignore it?

Can we just delete WP:NOTBACKDOOR because it, ironically, is used as a backdoor, not for deletion but by UPE and COI editors?

It was added here based on this but that was clearly a bad idea that backfired spectacularly.

Pinging @WhatamIdoing: because they probably know about these things. Polygnotus (talk) 07:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I haven't looked into what you are describing, but it seems that you are calling for a change of policy. If so, that would be better done either on the talk page of one of the pages you cite, or at the WP:village pump. ColinFine (talk) 10:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Not yet, I am trying to understand the situation. Polygnotus (talk) 15:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Polygnotus: Your post incudes several assumptions, not least "no one finds it within 90 days". Do you have evidence of all this actually happening? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Yes, of course. But I am trying to understand the situation in general, not talking about a specific set of articles. Polygnotus (talk) 15:56, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Then please share the evidence with us; not so that we can "talk about a specific set of articles", but in order that we can see and understand the processes involved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: If I actually want to change policy (which is not my cup of tea, to put it mildly) I will probably have to make a list of examples, which will take a long time, and I will have to dig into the history of each of the articles I suspect have this history (which again will take a long time). For now I am just trying to see if my understanding of the situation is correct. Polygnotus (talk) 16:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Note that I made this edit. Polygnotus (talk) 16:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Name order for South Korean ICC judge

I want to create a stub on the South Korean judge Keebong Paek who was recently elected to the International Criminal Court (ICC), and I'm trying to figure out the appropriate name order. WP:NCKO says "Unless the subject is known to prefer otherwise, family name should be written first." This promotional video for his ICC candidacy published by the South Korean Foreign Ministry refers to him as Keebong Paek (which is the Western name order, given name first). I'm not sure whether I should infer from this that "the subject is known to prefer otherwise" – for all I know, the Ministry might have a policy of Westernization and he might be opposed to it. But this is also the form of the name that's consistently used to refer to him at the ICC, and even a Google search restricted to .kr sites yields a lot more hits for Keebong Paek than for Paek Keebong. On the other hand, a tweet from the Foreign Ministry (that published the above video) upon his election refers to him as Paek Keebong, and that's also the title of the article in the German Wikipedia (the only one that has an article so far).

I feel that much speaks in favour of using the form Keebong Paek that all his work at the ICC (by far his most prominent activity so far) will be associated with, but it would be a stretch to say that the subject is known to prefer it. How to resolve this?

Joriki (talk) 09:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Joriki: You might get better answers at WT:WikiProject Korea. Good luck! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Mullburies

Mallbarrier are not strawberies/ Mallbarires grow on ery prickly sticks like plants. Strawbrrier and other berries grow on plants on gtound. I ould find on picture of malbarroirs. When my parents ha a garden nears Warsaw, Poland i picked bowls of mulberries. can you show a picture? 174.83.93.53 (talk) 12:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Is this a question about the Wikipedia article Morus? Or about some other article. I can't tell what you are asking. ColinFine (talk) 12:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

IP editor: there are lots of pictures at mulberry and at commons:Category:Morus, including Commons:Category:Morus alba in Poland Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

"Prickly sticks" with berries sounds more like Rubus; maybe the raspberry, which is "Malina" in Polish. Maproom (talk) 14:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia scam

Hello, at the beginning of this year a company called Wiki Mastery contacted my company about a Wikipedia article. After a few months someone from Wikimedia foundation contacted us saying that it might be a scam.

Can you help me with this matter? Thank you. 5.2.203.38 (talk) 12:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. What help are you looking for? Are you saying that you fell for the scam?

If that's the case, I don't think we can help you, but you might start by reading WP:SCAM. ColinFine (talk) 12:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I am concerned that you say the WMF contacted you. Usually WMF would not become involved unless you contact them, not the other way around. I suggest that you use the e-mail address in the WP:SCAM page to contact them instead of replying directly to whatever communication you got from "WMF". -Arch dude (talk) 13:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Could someone help me delete this wikipedia about me?

Nicholas Parnell

This page, is about me. If possible I would like it removed. Its affecting my current job position.

Happy to provide ID! Nicholasparnell50 (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

After reading the pre-2020 revision of this article, I assume that a majority of the content was not about you (or about someone with a similar name). Either way, you as an individual are probably not notable enough for a Wikipedia page, having won Style Wars which doesn't even have its own Wikipedia article. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:19, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I've nominated the article for speedy deletion due to a lack of notability. The article is likely to be removed, and won't be created again unless you do something important enough and with enough coverage to be considered notable enough for a Wikipedia article. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Malinaccier (talk) 14:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@GeorgeMemulous: I am perplexed, if "Style Wars" doesn't have its own article, then what is Style Wars? FWIW, both Justapedia and Infogalactic also have these articles. Fabrickator (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

The article Style Wars is apparently about "an American 1983 documentary film", not a competition with the same name. TSventon (talk) 14:51, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

As an interesting aside, both the the Justapedia and Infogalactic versions lacks the article's history, and thus attribution. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Malinaccier: Hang on - if "the pre-2020 revision of this article [was] about someone with a similar name", then who was it about? Who usurped it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:02, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

It was about a fashion stylist named Nicholas Parnell who won a TV game show (the same subject as the 2024 version of the article). GeorgeMemulous was (I assume) allowing for the possibility that the requestor was somebody with the same name but not the subject of the article. Malinaccier (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Not quite.

On the revision history, the requesting account deleted most of the article on 8 December 2020, and didn't request deletion until now. The deletion of much of the article was unchallenged, and indeed looking at that revision from 7 December 2020 it is possible that the sources were mentioning a different individual with the same name. Either way, none of the articles were specifically about them, and after the requestor deleted most of the page's contents the article was a 2 sentence stub for nearly 4 years until today. Even back then it didn't have much indication of notability. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Correction: The requesting account was created today, and the article was nearly blanked in 2020 by an account also with 'Nicholas Parnell' in its username. The near-blanking went unchallenged as the article already failed notability back then and was likely an orphan article. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:23, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hmm, my read is that it seemed very likely to be the same person. In any case, I did not think this was a controversial deletion, but if there is interest in disputing this deletion, I am happy to provide a copy of the article's text circa 2020 and 2024 and having a formal deletion discussion at AfD. Malinaccier (talk) 15:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Close controversial move

Can someone close Talk:Al-Tabaeen school attack#Requested move 10 August 2024. There seems to be consensus to move but i do not want my first (second?) move close to be in such a controversial topic AlexBobCharles (talk) 15:35, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@AlexBobCharles For closures on controversial topics, it's probably best to request at WP:CR. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:31, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Glitches when typing on talk pages

Hello all. I'm sure there's a better place to ask this, but for the past few months when I edit talk pages to add new topics, there has been an annoying glitch which makes typing nearly impossible. Basically, once I press shift, whatever I am typing gets sent to the beginning of a paragraph in reverse order.

For instance, if I type "The first three letters of the English alphabet are ABC," that turns into "BCAThe first three letters of the English alphabet are."

I've noticed this happens when I switch tabs, such as when I'm grabbing sources. It is affecting me here, too. I would appreciate any advice here. Ornov Ganguly TALK 15:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Oganguly: Please save an edit where it happens so we can check whether something inserted non-displayed characters like right-to-left markers. If it only happens for new topics then you can probably avoid the problem by disabling "Enable quick topic adding" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. What is your browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter, disabling quick topic adding and editing resolved the issue completely. Thank you.

For other details, I use Firefox 129.0.2 (64-bit). I suppose saving an edit now wouldn't be necessary unless you would like to know for the future? Ornov Ganguly TALK 17:22, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

username

What is my user name ?? i have email ID but cant remember my uid. 2001:4490:4839:D1C:9C48:F0CA:D471:512E (talk) 16:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

If you are asking about a Wikipedia login name, there are some suggestions at Help:Logging in#What if I forget the username? -- John of Reading (talk) 16:38, 2 September 2024 (UTC)