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Lack of Objectivity

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If you want to viewed as a credible source for information and to continue to receive donations from readers such as myself, it is important to me that you maintain a broad, fair and objective presentation of the facts. I do not believe this is happening. Biased reporting about the “Big Lie”, steal your credibility and promotes a lack of interest in what is on your site - because it is not credible. I want both sides of the truth. 2600:1700:4E1:8380:CFB:74FA:9759:5F64 (talk) 17:25, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then tell us what you think isn't objective, using reliable sources to support your assertions. Acroterion (talk) 18:56, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article says it's a false claim that "the election was stolen through massive voter and electoral fraud." A non trivial number of people do believe it was stolen. That means there's two sides, yes? The problem is these people tend to believe most of the news media is colluding with the Democrats. *If* they are correct, then there ARE no credible sources for them to cite!
Of course, putting information about Trump in article about Hitler... it's hard to escape the impression that this is another form of claiming "Trump is Hitler". 70.115.246.27 (talk) 22:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are people who believe the earth is flat. We have visual evidence that says that it isn't. But that evidence isn't backed up by sources that don't align with what the people who believe that it is flat will accept. Sometimes there is something foul afoot. Other times you have a person who lied 30,000 times in 4 years (more than that, but still) telling you not to believe your lying eyes. 75.142.254.3 (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a false claim, backed by reliable sources that it's false. Not a single credible source says otherwise. People believe what they wish to believe, but in this reality-based encyclopedia, we don't encourage fantasy created to further personal ambition. Acroterion (talk) 22:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is a lot more proof of the election being stolen than a flat earth. Flat earth has been completely disproven. Trumps claims of a stolen elections simply haven’t been confirmed. That is not the same. Speaking of a flat earth, the page about the flat earth theory isn’t titled “peoples lies about a flat earth” so why should that be done here? 108.24.127.83 (talk) 23:29, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the United States, the validity of elections is decided in the courts. About 60 courts, both federal and state, looked at these stolen election claims, and not a single one found substantive problems that could have affected the outcome. What could possibly be more decisive than that? Cullen328 (talk) 23:41, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flat earth hasn't been used to bamboozle people into voting for someone or to justify genocide. Acroterion (talk) 23:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is very difficult to prove a negative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_negative_claims#:~:text=Negative%20claims%20are%20assumed%20to%20be%20true,claims%20may%20have%20a%20positive%20counterpoint%20that 2600:1010:B181:EC92:1088:4B01:8BAB:428F (talk) 06:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When about 60 courts say "completely unproven" and literally zero courts say "there is a major problem with this election", then that is for all practical purposes "proving the negative", at least in the context of the U.S. justice system. Cullen328 (talk) 06:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is the 2020 election a good example?

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I mean, doesn't it work both ways? What if Trump really did win, the election was actually stolen from him? Couldn't the big lie be that Biden won? If your instinctive reaction is something like "that can't possibly be true", that's the whole point. 70.115.246.27 (talk) 21:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He didn't win, and it wasn't stolen. No credible source says otherwise. This encyclopedia is based on reality. There are not two sides. Acroterion (talk)