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Fundraising and Partnerships/Supports
[edit]I think that the fashion designers that support and have partnerships with UNICEF should be added like Gucci, Prada, and Armani. A percentage of their sales from certain products go to benefit the United Nation's Children's Fund. Cajoiner (talk) 19:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Trick or treat
[edit]Should add information about trick-or-treat for UNICEF, a common program DiceDiceBaby -Undated
Work in world
[edit]Anyone know what work they do around the world in more detail?the work is going on very well -Unsigned
- The lack of information on this wikipedia page is quite shocking! It doesn't give any idea about the number of people it's working with, but it does give a lot of criticisms... 82.41.200.77 (talk) 08:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC) (lionfish)
- Part of their world wide world can be seen on Sankaku Complex. I think this info must be added to Criticism section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda Kaioh (talk • contribs) 06:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Language template poll
[edit]A poll as to whether or not the language template should be included in this article is being conducted at Talk:United_Nations_Commission_on_Human_Rights#Poll Raul654 19:41, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Mention criticisms of UNICEF
[edit]There are many criticisms of UNICEF. Some claim that it became too focused on ultra-feminist goals instead of the good of children when it was lead by Carroll Bellamy. Others claim that UNICEF forces abortions and sterilizations onto women in developing countries, or tricks them into receiving such procedures without their knowledge. I can't prove these as true, but the accusations are widespread. To mention that the accusations are made is important to demonstrate that there is a degree of controversy surrounding UNICEF. MikeNM 01:53, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- There is little no NPOV here - this article was pulled right off the UNICEF website. There is a significant history of campaigning and distributing international funds for abortion and population control in UNICEF for several decades. It needs to be recorded here. User:rjp2006 Sept 2006
- Where does it say on the unicef web site anyhting about promoting abortions? Articles I was able to find were about caring for orphans, AIDS prevention and immunizations. Additionally, if those allegations of forced or tricked abortions or sterilizations were true, one would think some (politically and religiously independent) human rights-promoting organization (such as Human Rights Watch) would have created a dossier about it. Wikipedia is meant to be an encyclopedia, not a political forum, and as such, it should contain objective, verified information. There is no place on Wikipedia for baseless allegations, no matter how widespread they might be in some circles. 71.166.127.249 (talk) 15:59, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- I doubt that, if UNICEF money was indeed gonig to fund abortions, that such a fact woudl be found on their website. In any case, we can't even talk about criticisms until we actually have some basic information, first. This article is highly formative and needs to be built, especially considering how much publicity UNICEF typically gets. The first task is to obtain some appropriate third-party sources. Nautical Mongoose (talk) 06:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- The American government has been calling for a Japanese ban on possession (of child porn), and the Japanese branch of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) has been pushing for the inclusion of virtual depictions in the ban. Sounds like UNICEF wants to ban loli, something not everybody seems to agree on. VDZ (talk) 11:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- There has been a lot of coverage of this issue lately VDZ, it may be relevant to have a section about it. Not to rush it though, we could put together some good references in the talk page first. The insistance of the Japanese branch of UNICEF on banning fictional depictions goes above and beyond protecting children in my view. I would be completely understanding of any parent or teacher who did not want them doing their Halloween collection campaigns in their schools due to this intrusion upon art and free expression that even Neil Gaiman is protesting as it happens on US turf. Tyciol (talk) 06:13, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- The American government has been calling for a Japanese ban on possession (of child porn), and the Japanese branch of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) has been pushing for the inclusion of virtual depictions in the ban. Sounds like UNICEF wants to ban loli, something not everybody seems to agree on. VDZ (talk) 11:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think we can add a bit in the criticism section.
- Sources from ANN:
- Japan's Planned Child Porn Law Exempts Manga, Anime, 2008-03-11
- Unicef Japan continues push against virtual child porn, 2008-10-12.
- There should also be an article about the proposed swimsuit depiction ban, but I can't find it ATM.
- I think we can add a bit in the criticism section.
- Sources from Sankaku Complex (not sure if it counts as a reliable source, but at least their sources might be reliable if SC isn't):
Inconsistent date formats at the UNICEF web site
[edit]After visiting the UNICEF web site, both American and British date formats can be found.--Jusjih 09:27, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Current Executive Director, Ann Veneman
[edit]Ann Veneman's appointment as Executive Director of UNICEF is disturbing. In a Nation article, Now Bush is Picking On Kids, John Nichols wrote, "the notion that Veneman would be placed in a position to decide how to feed and care for the planet's most destitute children is every bit as alarming as the notion that Wolfowitz would be charged with providing aid to developing countries." Earlier, Nichols explained why Ann Veneman was "Perhaps Bush's Most Dangerous Cabinet Pick." The Nation. Common Dreams.
Maude Barlow: "As a negotiator of NAFTA, (Veneman) helped consolidate neo-liberal policies that plunged millions of children into poverty... A far-right conservative who will put profit for American corporations above the health and safety of the world's children is a disastrous choice to head Unicef." Too Close For Comfort, p. 249
Democracy Now! (video, audio, and transcript): "Agriculture Secretary Veneman's Tenure Marked By Anthrax Scare, Trade Disputes, and Mad Cow Disease"
New York Times: "In the case of mad cow disease, there were early accusations that the government was playing down the threat to protect the beef industry. The secretary of agriculture when the first case was found, Ann M. Veneman, was a former food industry lobbyist, her critics noted, and her chief spokeswoman's last job had been press representative for the National Cattlemen's Beef Association."
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reuben Apple (talk • contribs) 03:53, 18 February 2007 (UTC).
Employment policy
[edit]UNICEF has a profoundly bias view on employment, carrier development and fair distribution of allowances and grants. The organizations rules, policies and regulations differ from the Head Quarters, Regional Head Offices, Country Offices, Zone Offices and even in the Emergency Offices / Hubs. The 'Head of Office' is the official 'Czar' and can pretty much do anything for their benefit. This is evident from most UNICEF policies that give them this power.
Employment is usually but not always transparent. UNICEF has to scratch the back of host governments or the Czar might want to bring in their familiar compatriots / women. Ann's employment is a fine example, thanks to Bush.
Further more employees themselves are treated in 3 'different' categories, IPO’s (International Professional Officers), NPOs (National Professional Officers) and GS (General Service). The provisions, benefits and even rights to training can be decided in these categories, irrespective of the Level of Education / Experience of GS and NPO or IPO and NO could be very much the same.
Even the employee rules are either staff rules 100, 200 and 300. Mostly the same but differentiating where it benefits the above structure.
The organizational structure itself is almost like an inverted triangle with more people on top then the bottom, i.e. IPOs and NOs are usually 2/3 of the setup while the labor workhorses of GS staff are 1/3.
The essence of corporate plagiarism is also a maligned stigma, where the people below work and the fame is gathered by the higher ups.
It would be delightful if some one could shed some light of whether the Executive Directors Carol and Ann had a major role in achieving their personal agendas rather than the vision of UNICEF. Ann has been linked to countless flaws in her previous employment and Carol some what of a feminist, had a major impact on women in the UN, but, most parts of the world do not always follow this rule due to the internal cultural norms. This can cause bottle necks in the organizations work flow.
Oh the above paragraph can further clarify the 'Czar' comment. Also for those new and gold charmed UNICEF want to be employees, 'this is not a humanitarian organization as it is for others (those that we help) but not equitably for all its employees. It is very much a strong hold of the worlds top diplomats, beaurocrats and corporate leaders which has changed this organization to a corporate entity'. -Unsigned
Shouldn't we change the name to "United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund"?
[edit]Title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.56.202 (talk) 17:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. --65.78.213.134 (talk) 03:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the current name of the organization is, in fact, the United Nations Children's Fund. According to their website's FAQ, the name was officially changed (though the acronym retained) to its present form when UNICEF was incorporated as a permanent UN body in 1953. Nautical Mongoose (talk) 06:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Spelling UNICEF now
[edit]Shouldn't United Nations Children's Fund be done like United NatIons ChildrEn's Fund for the caps to match? Tyciol (talk) 22:41, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think so. The acronym doesn't correspond to the full title of the organization anymore--UNICEF kept it because the word "UNICEF" is recognizable and known around the world, but the title of the fund has been simplified. "UNICEF" corresponds to its first, longer title, and isn't meant to line up exactly with the new one. -Unsigned
Unicef's funding of terrorist training camps
[edit]Title makes me look like a crazy, but a report was done in 2003 by the Globe and Mail (most read Canadian newspaper) in which UNICEF was found to have funded Palestinian summer camps where kids were being trained in terrorism. One of the camps UNICEF paid for was named after the first female suicide bomber. The G&M article is gone, but there's a report from the Anti-Defamation League [1]. I don't mean to politicize this page, and clearly UNICEF also does a lot of good, but it's probably worth a mention in the article. 67.193.131.167 (talk) 02:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- So what happened after this request of UNICEF was made? What action did UNICEF take? If none, what follow up did ADL take? Kingturtle (talk) 12:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- My first time posting on wikipedia talk, did a little research and found a couple links pertaining to this;
(http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/222642/tricked-unicef/dave-kopel) (http://web.archive.org/web/20120305215632/http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/827)
== Public criticism == [This section needs to severely better meet the standards of Wikipedia. It is biased, unclear, and written in a personal style rather than a technical or reference style.] I don't understand why UNICEF's "adherence to the 1990 Convention on the Rights of the Child" would be a source of criticism. Is it that it fails to adhere? Could somebody explain please? supercriminal (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- If we cannot find why/if there is notable public criticism, then remove. Babakathy (talk) 17:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- And who criticises UNICEF for being against the sale/marketting of milk substitute in hospitals (except the manufacturers of said products)? Babakathy (talk) 17:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Well UNICEF 'adherence to the 1990 convention on the rights of the child' is a source of critisim cause 'adherence' does not justify 'non-compliance of host Governments' , where UNICEF counties to run their programmes. So even if countries have signed the convention & do not implement it UNICEF does not make any efforts to understand the other parties point of view or take steps to programatically involve that party to ratify the convention. Gaza's murder of children by Isreal & the support of Isreali UNICEF work is an example, although Isreal was condemned so UNICEFs actions are like a double faced faucet, with no single flow of thought.
About the second opinion (UNICEF critised for critising milk substitutes) that might be right, but, the fact is with the WHO (world health organisation), UNICEF can recommend but not over ruls what the WHO says ... there are varying opnions of 6 - 12 months pf breast feeding. Infact UNICEFs own breast feeding policy is pretty fuzzy when female employees cannot make it to their homes to feed their infants or at the same time do it in the office due to security / social norms or etc. Infact which push comes to shove, the policy is totally set aside, saying the female employees should sacrifice this policy for their job descriptions rather than follow the advice given by UNICEF to others for 'not substituting mother milk'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infotechnic (talk • contribs) 17:40, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I have tried to find reliable sources for criticism of UNICEF on baby milk and Sudan and could only find cricitism by UNICEF. I have editted the cricism on rights-based approach to reflect what Horton said in the Lancet - it's not a criticism of the convention but of the approach/focus. Babakathy (talk) 08:36, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Corporate Partnership
[edit]Under the Corporate Partnership section, the third sentence is just kind of thrown in as an afterthought and not really relevant to the section heading at all, in my opinion. It adds that UNICEF's CEO, who is unnamed, allegedly earns $1.2 million a year, plus the use of a "Royal Royce for HIS* exclusive use wherever HE* goes, and an expense account that is rumoured to be well over $150,000. *Information I have found indicates the CEO is a she. I am also unaware of what a "Royal Royce" is, assuming the author meant a Rolls Royce. It goes on to state that less then $0.14 of each dollar donated is used for it's actual charity work. None of this factual information is cited, and furthermore I believe it ALL to be wrong, based on my information. UNICEF's United States branch is required to submit it's financial breakdown to the United States government for public review. That information can be found here: Charity Navigator. The CEO, Caryl M. Stern, is reportedly compensated $419,832, not the $1.2 million currently stated in this article. And other sources I have found indicate that the actual amount of each dollar brought in that is used in charity work is higher than the $0.14 listed in this article. Most sources agree on about $0.39, with UNICEF themselves claiming 95% goes to charity directly.
The most interesting part of all this is I managed to find where the author of this section found his or her information. From a website called Urban Legends. You can see it, and the exact copy paste of the text used in this section of the article, WITHOUT the author citing the source he/she copied it verbatim from, here: Urban Legends. The actual copied section is not very far down on the page, and under a heading called "2010 Example". The source for this is not cited, and is claimed to be the text of an email sent by an unknown person to someone, presumably, at this Urban Legends website. We also see where the "Royal Royce" mistake originated from.
I don't think Wikipedia should be copy-pasting, without citing the source, it's factual information from a site called Urban Legends. Just doesn't seem like a sound, factual source for financial information. Once I can find a reliable, credible source for the particulars on how much of every dollar donated goes to charity, I will correct this erroneous information. While UNICEF USA does provide information on it's finances to the government on that page I cited, it doesn't break it down for us to display what exactly goes into the claimed 95% of revenue going to charity. It could easily be listing fuel costs, etc under that section which isn't entirely honest in my opinion. Heimdallen (talk) 06:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Sponsorship
[edit]Actually the first football club to have the unicef logo on its shirts it has been the Catanzaro fotball club in 1982 (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catanzaro_Football_Club), i'm not sure if they have an agreement with the unicef or no. For what i know the first football club to have an agreement with the unicef it has been the Piacenza calcio in 2001 (http://www.unicef.it/doc/174/piacenza-calcio) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.104.217.12 (talk) 12:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Facebook messages circulating about Unicef CEO Carol M. Stern salary
[edit]Don't know if its true; but messages about her salary being $1million plus per year plus use of a Rolls Royce. Any way to check the salary data of UNICEF management?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
- Only thing I could find is this link to a UNICEF site but I did not find Stern's salary information; it only said that the rumors circulating were not true.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:28, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
1. Caryl Stern is not UNICEF CEO. Caryl Stern is CEO of the U.S. Fund for UNICEF, one of 37 national committees that support UNICEF's work in countries around the world. The two organizations are not the same. Anthony Lake is currently the executive director of UNICEF. 2. Caryl Stern's salary as CEO of the U.S. Fund for UNICEF is nowhere near $1 million per year. Her salary is publicly available on the U.S. Fund for UNICEF's web site and in the financial documents posted there. unicefusa.orgMarvismarvis (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
UNICEF corruption
[edit]I think this page is very unbiased, but it should contain a little more information. There have been numerous recent scandals associated with UNICEF. It apparently funded terrorist summer camps for children. This is not included in the "criticism" category, and maybe it should be — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.201.216 (talk) 18:27, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
- I would love to see evidence of this. --Gary Dell'Abate (talk) 00:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't take long to find out the corruption within UNICEF my friend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.59.114 (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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Full name doesn't include Emergency
[edit]According to their website, back when the name was shortened from UN International Children's Emergency Fund, it was changed to UN Children's Fund, not Children's 'Emergency' Fund as this page suggests, and still goes by that shorter name today. Should this be corrected?
http://www.unicef.org/about/who/index_faq.html Kb.au (talk) 00:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Pronunciation conflict
[edit]The English transliteration in the intro is inconsistent with the IPA. It would need to be YEW-ni-sef to match; otherwise, we could change the IPA to /ˈuːnɪsɛf/. 192.235.30.56 (talk) 16:26, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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Whitewashing and POV pushing
[edit]I added back the text of the section "Digital Age Assurance Tools and Children's Rights Online across the Globe report" which was almost completely changed by an editor without any valid explanation. The text is sourced. It reads:
- Digital Age Assurance Tools and Children's Rights Online across the Globe report
- In 2021, UNICEF published a report called Digital Age Assurance Tools and Children’s Rights Online across the Globe, which some have interpreted as minimizing the effect of pornography on children. The National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE), along with 487 child safety experts and advocates from 26 countries, sent UNICEF a letter expressing concerns about the report and sharing data about the harms of pornography exposure to children. In response to the controversy, UNICEF pulled down the report. The fact-checking website Snopes argued that misleading headlines had distorted the report about digital tools and human rights."
Information about the letter by The National Center on Sexual Exploitation and 487 child safety experts and advocates from 26 countries was removed by an editor, which seems to be unjustified censorship of relevant info. The POV of Snopes must remain, but the section cannot be only about Snopes, as it is WP:POV and WP:UNDUE to only present their views, especially without context; and removing other sourced info is unacceptable. 2A02:2F0F:B204:C400:75AE:B02F:8DAB:6656 (talk) 20:51, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Trick or Treat for UNICEF
[edit]Early in the article, after talking about Trick or Treat for UNICEF, it says that it was outlawed in Canada. Later in the article it goes on to say how much Canada and the U.S. has currently made from it. I’m confused, is it outlawed or not? Maybe we could make this clearer. RyanMarder (talk) 15:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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