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September 3

Line under topicons

Does anyone know why the line under the topicons at my use page doesn't stretch across the whole page anymore? Now the line abruptly ends once it reaches the topicons. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. I can't see a line stopping. (And I'm guessing that when you say "topicons" you refer to the row of + icons linking to apparently random articles that you have for some unexplained reason put across the top of your user page). ColinFine (talk) 09:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9 I don't see any line either at your page or at that for User:David notMD who, like you, uses these icons to indicate the articles they have brought to good article status or to a DYK. If you are concerned about this, you probably need to consult the technical experts at WP:VPT, maybe providing a screenshot. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9: I don't see the issue in the default skin Vector 2022 but I see it in Vector legacy and MonoBook. What is your skin? If it's not the default then please always say it when you ask interface questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

2010 ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Mobile skins

Despite me changing my skin to Monobook, I still see it as Minerva Neue. Is there a reason why? OhHaiMark (talk) 04:43, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@OhHaiMark this a better question for WP:VPT. I successfully changed from Vector22 to Monobook and Minerva in Special:Preferences without issues. The setting is stored in database, so I am unsure what issues might cause it. Can you confirm you are signed in to the same account? Or try opening your account in a new browser/device? ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@OhHaiMark: Your post was made in the mobile version which reminds of Minerva Neue. The bottom of the mobile version has a "Desktop" link which uses your skin preference. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! OhHaiMark (talk) 02:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Looking for Reasonable Biography Writing Services

Can anyone recommend how to select the right biography writing services? Please make sure their services are consistent in providing engaging and well-researched content. Jhonparatha (talk) 09:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

If you're asking about creating articles for Wikipedia, the answer is, don't.

If you (or whoever you are thinking of) meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability then eventually somebody will write an article. If they don't, then nothing anybody can do will can create an article, and your money will be wasted.

Added to which, many services offering to write Wikipedia articles for money are scams: see SCAM.

The fact that you are considering paying somebody to write a Wikipedia article indicates that you probably share the common misconception that Wikipedia has anything at all to do with promotion - i.e., telling the world about something or somebody. Promotion is not permitted anywhere on Wikipedia.

A Wikipedia article is only possible if there is already substantial material published about a subject.

If you're talking about some other context than Wikipedia, I'm afraid we can't help you. ColinFine (talk) 10:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Distributive behaviour

Hello,

I’d like to report disruptive behaviour on the page On the Right Group, as my edits are reversed without justification. 2A02:A420:27D:39C7:E5F5:B0B7:10B9:D65E (talk) 10:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

The issue has been swiftly resolved; the user has been blocked after making mass disruption edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A420:27D:39C7:E5F5:B0B7:10B9:D65E (talk) 11:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Reporting a user

Hello, these two users 2001:999:400:EA71:21C1:8C71:9204:9572 and 91.152.225.81 keep vandalising iraqi and kurdish topics without an account, they keep editing sources and showing off as a (baathi) like racist arabs who try to vandalise topics within that federal country, I really appreciate if an administrator sorted them out, Thanks. ZagrosianSigma (talk) 11:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

ZagrosianSigma for future reference the correct page for blatant vandalism is WP:AIV and for tendentious editing, Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 13:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I reported there too but it got deleted and I have no idea can you help me out? ZagrosianSigma (talk) 14:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Your post at WP:AIV was removed by @Ad Orientem, along with some other reports, because they were not instances of "obvious vandalism or obvious spam". Ad Orientem had previously suggested taking it to WP:ANI. ColinFine (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:AFD/List of statutory instruments of Scotland, 2024

Should the initial post here not be signed? --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Jax 0677 Scrolling through WP:AFDT it should be signed, I think. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 13:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Actually, this edit would beg to differ. While I have you here, Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Dark_mode_when_logged_out_of_Wikipedia still needs to be addressed. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Also, should Rajput not have a hatnote pointing to Rajput (disambiguation)? I think I have read somewhere that a hatnote should point to a disambiguation page just in case someone does create one. Also, I misunderstood that you were agreeing with me that the initial post should be signed. --Jax 0677 (talk) 19:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

It should be signed and I have used {{subst:unsigned}}.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Fix a technical malfunction

Why in this entry Walter Huston there is written "website=ignored" in the Oxford source cited? 2A02:B023:F07:52F4:BD4A:3161:2856:CD3 (talk) 12:48, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

There are several ways of fixing such things, but this worked. Deor (talk) 13:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Air France Flight 091

Air France Flight 091 Jasper 554 (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Jasper 554, if you have a question about using Wikipedia, then what is the question? -- Hoary (talk) 23:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I want to create pages Jasper 554 (talk) 23:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Presumably you have some question about this. Perhaps Help:Your first article answers it. -- Hoary (talk) 00:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Air_France_Flight_091 currently tagged for CSD. @Jasper 554: you should start new articles in your sandbox or in Draft space. RudolfRed (talk) 00:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

September 4

Rajput

Should Rajput not have a hatnote pointing to Rajput (disambiguation)? I think I have read somewhere that a hatnote should point to a disambiguation page just in case someone does create one.

Also, Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Dark_mode_when_logged_out_of_Wikipedia still needs to be addressed. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Jax 0677, "Rajput (disambiguation)" is merely a redirect to Rajput (surname), which disambiguates between people with this surname. We're all volunteers: you are most welcome (i) to turn "Rajput (disambiguation)" into an actual disambiguation page for "Rajput", (ii) to link from the former and (iii) to link to it from Rajput. ¶ If an issue brought up at WP:Village pump (technical) a week or more ago is yet to be addressed, then give it a bump at WP:Village pump (technical); or, if appropriate, bring up the matter on WT:Village pump (technical). -- Hoary (talk) 02:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary:, I tried to place a hat note, but it got reverted. I may need to consult WP:3PO. --Jax 0677 (talk) 11:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

User stats

Why does my user ID not display?I checked before and after date change in Greenwich. On 2 devices. DMc75771 (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@DMc75771: Please clarify your question. What user ID and where is it not showing that it should be? RudolfRed (talk) 01:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@DMc75771 if you are editing from the mobile interface, your username will be shown when you click on the person icon located at the very right of the top navigation bar. – robertsky (talk) 05:34, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Active users

it didn't show on the active user screen. DMc75771 (talk) 01:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Where in Wikipedia is this "active user screen", DMc75771? -- Hoary (talk) 02:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

After some searching I guess it's Special:ActiveUsers. Please link pages you refer to. I don't know why DMc75771 isn't listed there. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

How to Post Article.

I work in entertainment, and I would like to submit my contributions, and articles, but for some reason would i'm having a hard time figuring out how to submit properly each article. Betanstyle (talk) 05:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Betanstyle. I am sorry, but your user page is the wrong place to post the draft of an article. Plus, an unreferenced biography of a living person is a policy violation. You should spend a few weeks improving existing articles before taking on the difficult and daunting task of writing a new article. Spend a lot of time reading and studying Your first article and its links. Cullen328 (talk) 05:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Betanstyle: I have left some links to guidance on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Undoing multiple edits / Also, query on Outing

When undoing a string of recent edits, is it necessary to select each edit individually and select 'undo' each time, or is there a way that one can select the last 'good' version of the article and revert directly back to that version in a single process?

(The issue relates to the following thread at WP:COIN, here.) Axad12 (talk) 06:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Incidentally, there is also another issue on that thread re: whether outing should be struck, removed or something else. Any input on that point would also be very much appreciated. Axad12 (talk) 06:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

It's easy to go to the article history, click on the date "15:28, 12 August 2024", and then click on "restore this version". And, I don't see it as "outing" when the person has chosen to use his own real name. Maproom (talk) 07:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Okay, so when I click on "15.28, 12 August 2024", where is the option to select "restore this version"? Apologies if I'm missing something but I don't see it. Axad12 (talk) 07:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps clicking "15.28, 12 August 2024", then "edit source", then scroll to the bottom, add edit summary as "reverting to [etc]" and then click "publish"? Axad12 (talk) 08:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

You can also use the undo function to undo multiple consecutive edits by selecting the first and last of the offending edits, clicking "compare selected revisions" to view the diff, and clicking "undo". (WP:UNDO) Perception312 (talk) 15:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

On the outing question…

The relevant policy (WP:OUTING) says Posting another editor's personal information is harassment, unless that person has voluntarily posted their own information, or links to such information, on Wikipedia. Personal information includes real-life name, date of birth, identification numbers, home or workplace address, job title and work organisation, telephone number, email address, etc.

My interpretation is that just because someone is editing under their real name doesn’t entitle other editors to post information that they have discovered about that person from a brief Google search. I’d be interested to hear the opinions of others on this point.

Surely it's preferable to simply say “off-wiki evidence suggests that this account has a conflict of interest on this subject”. In the case in point even that would have been unnecessary, as the account was an SPA making unsourced edits in relation to the internal operation of an organisation and removing criticism, so the COI was transparent even without giving specifics. Axad12 (talk) 09:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Did you know

Hello, I am looking for a page on English Wikipedia that has articles on naval topics (like sailor biographies, warships) in the "Did you know" project. Where can I find these types of articles? Hope someone can help. Have a nice day! P. ĐĂNG (talk) 08:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@P. ĐĂNG, if you don't get a good reply here, you can try Wikipedia talk:Did you know. The closest I find is this page where you can search the hooks:WP:DYKA. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:10, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@P. ĐĂNG Articles that have generated a DYK will be placed into the category Category:Wikipedia Did you know articles, with a template on their Talk Page. You can use a tool like WP:PetScan to intersect that category with any other categories of interest to you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Disambiguation links

I believe that I have read somewhere, that when a disambiguation page is linked by a hat note, that the hat note should almost always refer to the page using the "(disambiguation)" suffix, just in case someone moves a disambiguation page to a title containing "(disambiguation)". Do you know of a page in the Wikipedia domain where this is documented? --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Jax 0677: See Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Links to disambiguation pages for the rule and reason. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict) you should probably read Wikipedia:Disambiguation. As Rajput currently has three meanings it may not need a disambiguation page, so I have added the third meaning to the hatnote. If you do create a disambiguation page, you should include all three meanings starting with the primary one.

I see you started a discussion on the article talk page, you could have pinged the editor who was reverting you and asked them directly if you disagreed with or didn't understand their reverts. You need to try a discussion and allow some time before asking for a third opinion as explained on the third opinion page. TSventon (talk) 12:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Exempting sections from auto-archiving?

As relates to Help:Archiving a talk page, how might one exempt a specific section of e.g. one's user talk page from being auto-archived.

Cf. [2] for the details of my current set-up. Biohistorian15 (talk) 18:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Biohistorian15 This is supposed to work: User:DoNotArchiveUntil. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Updated Photo Help

Hello! I am Kathy Taylor of Tulsa, OK.

I am unable to update the photo on my profile. The photo on the page is very dated and I would like for a more recent photo to replace it. Below is a list of current and verified photos that would work great for my page.

Wiki URL: Kathy Taylor (politician)

Personal Website: - https://kathytaylor.co/

News Stories and Website Mentions:

• https://utulsa.edu/news/letter-from-the-dean-march-2024/
• https://utulsa.edu/news/after-three-successful-years-taylor-stepping-down-as-dean-of-tus-collins-college-of-business/
• https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/local-regional/2021-05-19/tu-names-former-tulsa-mayor-taylor-as-interim-business-dean
• https://www.news9.com/story/5e3603c52f69d76f6203296b/kathy-taylor-to-join-tulsa-mayorelects-administration
• https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/business/article_0b1bb25a-b8db-11eb-9507-1736a18722ed.html
• https://www.lobecktaylor.org/board/kathy-taylor
• https://www.tauw.org/2023/10/23/kathy-taylor-way-to-a-united-tulsa-is-through-collaborative-efforts/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathytaylortulsa/

Thank you for your help. Please let me know if I'm not in the right place, or if I can provide anything further to get the photo changed over.

-Kathy Taylor KathyTaylorTulsa (talk) 22:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:A picture of you for the best practices for uploading a photo of yourself to Wikipedia or elsewhere on a Wikimedia project. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 22:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Please also note that it is not "your profile" it is an encyclopedia article about you.

The short answer to your question is that Wikipedia requires that images of living persons be freely licensed, as opposed to being copied from copyrighted websites. Wikipedia's copyright policies are significantly stricter than many other websites. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

KathyTaylorTulsa, your website has a standard "all rights reserved" copyright notice. We cannot use any images from that website for that reason. Cullen328 (talk) 01:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi KathyTaylorTulsa. You can, however, license the images on your website in a way that makes it easier for others to use as explained in creativecommonswiki:Marking your work with a CC license. Be advised though that you can only do this if you're the copyright holder of the image in question. In the case of photos, it's generally the person who takes the photo, not the subject of the photo, who is considered the copyright holder. Before you start re-licensing any photos, though, you might want to make sure it's really something you want to do. It would probably be a good idea to speak with someone who has a better than average understanding of what it means to release your creative content under the type of licenses Wikipedia accepts before uploading any files because such licenses tend to be irrevocable and only offer minimal restrictions; for example, any license that places restrictions on commercial reuse or derivative reuse is considered too restrictive for Wikipedia's purposes even though other websites might have no problem with it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Vynalrecords

Vynalrecords Friendly ian (talk) 22:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Friendly ian: Do you have a question about Wikipedia? It's not clear what "vynalrecords" is supposed to mean. Do you have a question about the Wikipedia article "Vinyl record"? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

September 5

Is it appropriate to place infoboxes after a section heading?

Each US president has a separate article about their presidency. These articles include an infobox that contains a few pieces of information and navigation links to the preceding and succeeding presidencies. (Here's the article on Biden's presidency, for reference).

However, three presidents (William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, and James A. Garfield) had presidencies that were too short to warrant their own articles. Any links to their presidencies redirect to the presidency sections of their personal articles (Presidency of William Henry Harrison, Presidency of Zachary Taylor, Presidency of James A. Garfield). Since these sections are being used as a substitute for separate articles, I think they should have the presidency infobox. Taylor's section already has one.

However, I wanted to make sure that there's no rule that says infoboxes must be at the top of an article. Would this be considered proper usage? TheLegendofGanon (talk) 00:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, TheLegendofGanon. I agree with you that these presidencies were too brief for their own articles. If so, why are presidency infoboxes desirable or useful? Cullen328 (talk) 03:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

My main concern is navigation. If someone is clicking through, using the infoboxes to go from one presidency to the next, then they'll eventually hit one of these short-tenured presidents. The lack of an infobox might throw them off a bit, and they might have trouble finding the next president. It wouldn't be too hard, granted, but we should make it as easy as possible to navigate around the site. TheLegendofGanon (talk) 07:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

We don't have a "rule", but our guideline MOS:INFOBOX expects that if an infobox is used (it does not have to be), that it is usually used in the lead. Infoboxes are not meant to provide navigation, that is meant for navboxes. I see Template:US presidents has links to each Presidency for example. CMD (talk) 11:24, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

So you would advise against adding presidency infoboxes to Harrison's and Garfield's articles?

Would you also recommend removing the one that already exists on Taylor's article? TheLegendofGanon (talk) 12:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I personally think the infobox currently at Zachary Taylor#Presidency (1849–1850) is a bit much for a section but would be OK without the image and seal. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't see an issue with two infoboxes in an article. Can't Help Falling in Love is an example where it works. Alternatively, you could try and combine the information into one infobox, like Burgess Owens. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 15:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

where is our article on the fraction slash?

I can't seem to find it anywhere. We show how different fonts display it, and I wanted to use the syntax for another article.

(There's a table with the fraction 1/2 composed of normal digits and the Unicode fraction slash, with each row defined as a different fonts.)

— kwami (talk) 03:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Kwamikagami. Take a look at Slash (punctuation). Cullen328 (talk) 04:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't see it there. They don't even use it in the examples in the 'fractions' section. — kwami (talk) 04:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I found it. It's at Unicode superscripts. Thanks! — kwami (talk) 04:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Remove

Moved to Wikipedia:Teahouse --112.208.236.135 (talk) 04:37, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Two articles created on the same topic, my bad.

So this article got created, but weirdly enough, it didn't appear in the WikiData list on the french Wikipedia.
Pélicot affair, created earlier, and my creation, Mazan rapes case.
The issue is this affair has three possible names. I don't know which name to choose for it. We obviously need to merge them, but I really don't know what to do, any help to rule this thing out would be welcome.
Personally I'd be more for Pélicot affair, since the other user created it first, and because why not, but the french wikipedia opted for Mazan rapes case, so honestly I don't know what to do there, would like some help to figure it out.
I don't know what the rules are about cases and affairs article names.
Thanks for any help! Global Donald (talk) 04:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Global Donald: I see that Mazan rapes case is longer, better sourced, and written in much better English. I would hope that Pélicot affair can be deleted, and superseded by your version. But I don't know if Wikipedia protocols would allow this. Maproom (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

We likely wouldn't need to delete the article, simply change it to a redirect after it's been properly merged. WikiData might have to make some changes though Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Not really your bad, nothing wrong was done. If you're happy to merge with the Pélicot affair article, then I would recommend you boldly merge over the Mazan rapes case text into the Pélicot affair article. The best title may become clearer with time, as this is an ongoing case. CMD (talk) 11:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I've merged Pélicot affair into Mazan rapes cases. Jean Abou Samra (talk) 20:23, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

wikipedia user page background skin thingy?

im trying to find the template that changes the background of a user page but I don't know where to look or how to find it, help will be appreciated! ModdiWX (message me!) 13:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@ModdiWX: Do you want to change your own user page for everybody, or all userpages for yourself, or something else? For the first, you can wrap the whole page in code like <div style="background-color:yellow;">...</div>, assuming the editable area of the page is enough. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

i wanna make it for everyone who views my userpage ModdiWX (message me!) 15:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

.... then what PrimeHunter suggested will work (I tried it in preview). You have some boxes which won't show the yellow. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

You can change <pre>to <pre style="background-color:yellow;"> if you also want the color there. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

anyone? ModdiWX (message me!) 14:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

arxiv.org link changes

There are many links to arxiv.org papers on wikipedia.

There are also links from a mirror at lanl.gov (US Los Alamos National Laboratory). These are in the format x x x.lanl.gov. These no longer work.

Can all these links be updated from https://x x x.lanl.gov/{path} to https://arxiv.org/{path} ? Brian Caruso (talk) 14:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

The lanl URLs have additional spaces in them to avoid automated quality checks on help desk posts. Brian Caruso (talk) 14:20, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Brian Caruso a job for WP:URLREQ. Can you repost this request there? – robertsky (talk) 14:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Robertsky I will do that. Thank you. Brian Caruso (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

English Teacher

Hello, there are a few inconsistencies on English Teacher Wikipedia: English Teacher

How do we get this amended? 212.161.122.27 (talk) 16:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Please detail any errors at Talk:English Teacher. 331dot (talk) 16:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is built by volunteer editors like you; if you see a problem on an article, instead of waiting for someone else to, we encourage anyone to be bold and change it! See the essay at Wikipedia:Be Bold for more. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

OP's "How do we get this amended?" suggests that they may have a conflict of interest; in which case 331dot's response is the correct one (albeit OP should also supply reliable sources to support any suggested changes); and OP should abide by our COI policy. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I understand that the use of we can indicate a conflict of interest. I do not believe, however, that the IP is associated with the group, and is likely just an anonymous music article editor from their edit history. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 20:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Change Page Title Before Publishing

How to change the title in the draft before publishing? The page isn't published yet and I need to change the page title. Moving the page isn't an option. DialaSharief (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

If you just want to change the name of the article and don't expect any pushback, you can list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Technical requests. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 16:49, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

There is very rarely reason to go through Wikipedia:Requested moves to rename a draft, and there is rarely a good reason to rename it at all before it becomes an article. @DialaSharief: Which page is it, which name do you want, and why do you think moving is not an option? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Odd change reversion

Hello. Based on recent reporting from multiple agencies, I edited the page for Tim Pool to prominently (within the first sentence describing him) draw attention to charges that he is an alleged Russian disinformation asset. This was reverted by a moderator based on the assertion that these changes 'did not appear constructive'. This act of removal was, itself, not constructive: drawing attention to disinformation assets is *extremely constructive* and should be done whenever possible. 66.210.250.190 (talk) 17:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Your revision was likely undone for not being added from a neutral point of view and placing undue weight on the topic. If you'd like to dispute this reversion, consider bringing it up at Talk:Tim Pool. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 17:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Is “random” censored?

I don’t find much controversial topics on “random” is that by design or just coincidence? 67.198.51.62 (talk) 17:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

It's much more likely to be a factor of how many articles there are and how very few subjects are controversial. Valereee (talk) 18:06, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Size of Wikipedia and then see Wikipedia:List of controversial issues. Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm sure there's an article on United States vs Kostiantyn Kalashnikov and Elena Afanasyeva but I can't find it

If not, I can start writing it. But I'm guessing it's just called something else. Can someone help me double check? - Scarpy (talk) 18:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Scarpy This? RT_(TV_network)#2024 Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

sorting search results by size

Here is a search I conducted: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&advancedSearch-current=%7B%22fields%22%3A%7B%22intitle%22%3A%22alumni%22%7D%7D&limit=500&ns0=1&offset=0&search=alumni+intitle%3Aalumni&sort=last_edit_desc I'm curious as to which colleges/universities have the most notable alumni, so I'd like to sort the results by size, but I can't figure out how to do that. Is there a way? Enri999 (talk) 18:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

One problem with what you hope to accomplish is that often, the universities with the largest numbers of notable alumni have separate articles listing alumni. Examples include List of Harvard University people and List of University of California, Berkeley alumni and List of Yale University people. Cullen328 (talk) 19:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

missing pages

Hi, there was a page on James Garcia born Feb 3, 1980 a minor league baseball player which is now gone. How to find? 199.68.152.135 (talk) 19:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

The article on James Garcia was deleted 28 May 2024 as it lacked clear notability. You can read its deletion discussion on this page. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit a page by adding the name of the subject on second national language

Hi to everyone. I did an edit some days ago where i added a name of the page in the secon national language of the country but some people revert those. Can someone help me to understand? Thanks Lord Ruffy98 (talk) 19:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Your edits adding a secondary Berber name to the Algerian People's National Army have been reverted as they violate our policy on original research. Uncited material can be challenged and removed at any time. You are free to re-add these contributions on the condition that you can provide and cite a reliable official or secondary source for the Berber translation. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@GeorgeMemulous: There was a citation in the reverted edit. Indeed, the edit which added it had the summary "Added a source of an official use of berber name of the People's National Army". There does not, though appear to be a citation for the Arabic version of the name, and yet that was not removed. The edit summary for the revert did not mention sources, but instead relied on MOS:FORLANG. However, says "Non-English names should be moved to a footnote or elsewhere in the article if they would otherwise clutter the first sentence", and yet that was, inexplicably, not done. Perhaps User:Skitash can say why? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

It was another editor that reverted Lord Ruffy98 for adding WP:OR, as their initial edit to the article did not contain any sources. I reverted them on the grounds of MOS:FORLANG, which states "If the subject of the article is closely associated with a non-English language, a single equivalent name in another language may be included in the lead sentence". Skitash (talk) 00:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that a user had added a topic about that edit, claiming it violated the original research policy. So, I looked into it and added a source from a site that uses the Tifinagh language. However, my edit was reversed, and when I asked for an explanation, no one told me what the problem was

P.S. Sorry if my English is not the best. Lord Ruffy98 (talk) 20:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Wondering if it Against Policy to Correct Spelling Mistakes on Archived Pages

Odd question and I am guessing the answer is no, but I am going to ask it anyway. If I spelt something incorrectly in a discussion on-wiki due to my youth and carelessness, is it considered appropriate years later to edit the page to correct the spelling--even if the material in question is now considered to be archived? Thebirdlover (talk) 19:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Archive pages are typically very low visibility, i.e. very few are likely to ever see it unless it becomes relevant again. In my opinion, it's for the better to leave the archive as it was, a snapshot of Wikipedia's discussion space at that given point in time. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 19:55, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

That's what I figured, but I am nervous since I am a recent changes patroller that a vandal might use my youthful mistakes to disparage me. Or if I would ever run for administrator (goodness forbid) which I doubt I'll do but never say never, the merciless voters would tear into edits that I made all those years ago and consider them on the same level as the edits I make today. So I ideally wanted to clean up my record so my edits in the 2020s would be emphasized and the early 2010s edits especially would be an afterthought. --Thebirdlover (talk) 19:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

If anything I think editing an archived page (especially just to fix something as minor as spelling mistakes) might draw more attention to you than letting archives stand for themselves, warts and all. People change, as do their opinions, and the editor you were then isn't necessarily indicative of the editor you are now. Anyone who can't see that probably isn't worth your time. Additionally, as George said, archives are intended to be snapshots; the whole principle of them being archives is that they're not subject to change. Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 20:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Did I do this AFD domoniation correctly?

Sorry I haven't been that active reacently, it looks like I mangled this AFD nomination - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Christine_Warnke

Can anyone help? It is related to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Warnke Bangabandhu (talk) 19:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Bangabandhu, It looks fine now, you didn't add it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 September 5, but a bot did it for you. TSventon (talk) 23:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Bangabandhu:, for future reference, WP:TWINKLE will do literally all of the steps for you. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 23:51, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I want to create a new wiki page on Cloud-Native. How do I start a new wiki page?

Cloud-Native CimaMeta (talk) 19:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I see you initially said "a certain topic that is important to my company" but then changed your post. It appears you have a WP:Conflict of interest, and would be deemed a WP:Paid editor. Creating an article is difficult, creating an article when you have a conflict of interest is doubly difficult, especially as you appear to have no experience of editing Wikipedia. - Arjayay (talk) 20:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 23:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

How to Add Paper Cutting as a Reference on Wikipedia

Hello, I need help adding a paper cutting as a reference on Wikipedia. Could someone please advise on the proper format for citing paper cuttings & how to add it, any additional details required, and how to ensure the reference meets Wikipedia's reliability standards? Thank you!(Ballal2003 (talk) 21:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC))

You cannot cite a paper cutting. However, if you have the necessary details of the source (publication, date, etc) then you can cite these. The cutting you have is irrelevant. See Citing sources. ColinFine (talk) 23:28, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ballal2003: If its from a newspaper use {{Cite newspaper}}, or if it is from a magazine use {{Cite magazine}} etc. See WP:RS for info on reliable sources. RudolfRed (talk) 23:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a record of precisely what it's a cutting from? 126.33.84.129 (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

September 6

Quoting sources in the citations

Is there a general guideline for quoting material from the source in citations? Particularly, approximate max length of quotes, and whether multiple quotes from the same source in different instances of a citation are counted together for copyright considerations. Thanks! Tsavage (talk) 03:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@Tsavage For example Template:Cite_book#Quote doesn't say anything on length. Guidance at MOS:QUOTE and WP:QUOTE (essay) boils down to "don't over-use." Use your best judgement, if someone disagrees, they might tell you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Bhitarkanika national park

Please change update new website www.bhitarkanikaecoresorts.com Contact number + 91 7008748100/91 7008955210 Bhitarkanika Eco Resorts (talk) 03:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

It is not appropriate to add the website of a private resort to an article about a national park. Wikipedia is not a phone directory. Usernames that are the names of businesses are not permitted. Cullen328 (talk) 03:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)