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September 12

TP topic stuck in limbo between "Publish" and "Leave Page" at Viking Arms and Armour

Hi, I edited the article, with bad formatting. Explained the edits, refs and formats on the TP, but no matter how often, nor how hard, I hit the 'publish' button, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Viking_Age_arms_and_armour doesn't publish. 'Elp! T 2A02:FE1:E16B:CC00:A8CF:DB8B:4D5D:FD8F (talk) 01:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I see no recent changes to the formatting of Viking Age arms and armour. What user name or IP address did you have when you made those changes? Maproom (talk) 06:43, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, it's not the article, it's the talk page. Didn't change formatting, just tried to post a topic, which seemingly didn't make it on to the talk page. When I open the page, my new section ("Foreign origins II") is stuck in draft mode. Dunno about any IP, Wiki gives me that string you see after the T, which is me. T 2A02:FE1:E16B:CC00:A8CF:DB8B:4D5D:FD8F (talk) 10:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

If you made external links then try placing them in <nowiki>...</nowiki> in source mode to deactivate them. You can also try to cancel the edit and start over by copy-pasting from the old attempt. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thx, that was it, <nowiki>worked! Problem solved. Thx agn. T 2A02:FE1:E16B:CC00:A8CF:DB8B:4D5D:FD8F (talk) 11:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Bromyard

Is reference 67 done correctly ? - I am unsure - I'm sorry to have to ask, but I still am unsure at times after all these years. Sorry. 175.38.37.197 (talk) 03:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

The format looks fine, but I doubt how reliable a personal website can be. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

What I don't understand is how your addition, however well referenced it might be, of a pile of material about Luptons -- "Lupton's children, William Darnton Lupton (1909-1915) and Joan (1911-1981) were the half-brother and sister of Sir Reginald Anthony Hungerford 7th Baronet (1920-2010)" -- benefits an article that's ostensibly about a town. -- Hoary (talk) 22:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Signatures

Bit of a less relevant question, but I want to ask how to customise the signatures? I've seen the setting itself, but is there a list of wikimarkup code or something that I can use to customise it? Thanks! Henry (talk) 05:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Henry Herrmann-Friedrich: Wikipedia:CUSTOMSIG has what you want, and it accepts any wiki markup as far as I can tell. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

do you allow ai generated content

say i ask chatgpt or another app to write about a specific topic that passes notability criteria. is this allowed in English wikipedia? i am interested in legal [cipyright] perspective and also the local policies in this wiki. thanks in advance. Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 11:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

It's only classified as an essay but see Wikipedia:Large language models which has many contributors. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Gryllida Wikipedia articles are always based on published sources, which we as editors have to summarise in our own words. The problem with LLM is that they hallucinate, i.e. they write stuff that looks plausible but which often has entirely fictitious sources. All these models were trained on Wikipedia's corpus, which makes them even more dangerous as they "know" what an article here looks like. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

i can find sources and ask LLM to summarise them. would this be allowed? i could note in edit summary i used an LLM, and do it from my account. Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 19:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

They can still add hallucinations or warp the meaning. At this point, it's probably less effort to just summarise it yourself. Cremastra (talk) 20:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

How to request a review for the article in sandbox?

I mean, is there a way to ask someone to have a look at this one and tell how to proceed with the approval for publishing? User:ThePhoenix4/sandbox ThePhoenix4 (talk) 11:26, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Tag it with {{subst:submit}}. First edit it though, in first paragraph note why is this topic notable, it helps to have that question answered. WP:Notability. you can also ask a question here. Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 11:34, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I suspect that the company that now owns Thomas Cook is notable. But you sandbox content does not establish this. Some of the references aren't independent; most of them simply state that eSky has bought Thomas Cook, without significant discussion of eSky. Its language is somewhat promotional. Even the caption of the (very poor) picture of the CEO repeats the statement of the takeover. The impression given is that the Cook takeover is eSky's only claim to notability. I would recommend that you start again from the beginning, by finding three or four reliable independent (not based on press releases or on what an eSky spokesperson has said) sources with in-depth discussion of eSky. At least two of them should be about eSky itself, not the takeover. Then base your draft in what thoose sources say. Maproom (talk) 12:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Maproom, Hi, thanks for sharing your thoughts on in — really appreciate your help! There are some other sources, but since those are mostly in Polish, I'm afraid these wouldn't be enough to meet the independency terms. I have only found up-to-date and reliable information about eSky - not coming from their website - with the takeover of Thomas Cook topic. If I can cite Polish-language sources, then perhaps I can diversify the references. Looking forward to your advise ThePhoenix4 (talk) 12:44, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

ThePhoenix4: you can establish notability by citing Polish-language sources, if no English equivalent is available. Maproom (talk) 13:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

There is a pl Wikipedia article at pl:eSky.pl, which has 46 references. Content translated from another Wikipedia should be acknowledged in an edit summary as explained at Help:Translation. TSventon (talk) 13:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Wow, had no idea, but fixed that already :) Would you check please when you have a minute? The fact is that I didn't translate the Polish article, but fully adapted the English version to an English reader, leaving only English source to make it available for everyone to understand. ThePhoenix4 (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

So how much impact would it have if, let's assume, half of the cases were Polish sources? ThePhoenix4 (talk) 14:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi, you only need to say you translated a Polish article if you actually translated a Polish article. I was informing you in case you wanted to translate material in the future. Also {{Translated page}} would go on the talk page, not the article page.

If necessary you can use 100% foreign language sources, but it is helpful to readers to include English language sources where available. TSventon (talk) 14:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

reliable source for WP

Can the NEWS link below be considered a reliable Source available on WP? www.skynews.com.au/

References

That source is listed at WP:RSPS as being one to use very cautiously: see also Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_448#Sky News Australia_and_the_Women's_boxing_controversy. As always, it depends somewhat on how you want to use the source. We have a specific place to ask these sorts of questions: see WP:RS/N. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Would somebody please help me edit?

 Courtesy link: Draft:Henrique Gabriel

Hi all! I'm new at editing on wikipedia and my first task is to help a friends whose father was a portuguese arist and died 1 year ago.

I do speak english german and portuguese fluently and have studied some techniques but i'm struggling with the templates. I'm kindly asking for some help on my draft on Henrique Gabriel.

Kindest regards CatPer9 (talk) 14:39, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I have tidied it up a little bit, you will need to show how they pass the criteria at WP:NARTIST. Theroadislong (talk) 14:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, CatPer9. I'm sorry to be negative, but "to help a friend" associated with the subject is a bad reason to edit Wikipedia. It sounds as if you think that an article about somebody is for that person's benefit (or their family's), but it is not, except incidentally. (See an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing).

Suppose in your researches you found some sources that were extremely critical of Gabriel. As a friend, you might want to ignore these, but as a Wikipedia editor, it would be your duty to consider them, and quite possibly to report what they said in the article - which might not please your friend.

In fact, looking at your draft, I see very little about what others have said about him. But that is what a Wikipedia article should be about, not just a list of things they have done. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

LINOLEIC ACID

what is Linoleic Acid Bonardyfam (talk) 20:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Have you read the article Linoleic acid ? - Arjayay (talk) 20:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

pronunciation keys

Many, many Wiki articles have a pronunciation key in International Phonetic Alphabet, which is super, but...when one clicks on this key it is tough to remember the entire original set of symbols. It would be SUPER if the key popped up as a new small window so one could readily use it. Thanks. 24.240.34.222 (talk) 21:06, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

As I view it, the article Kamala Harris starts "Kamala Devi Harris^[b]". When I place my cursor over the "^[b]", I'm told "Pronounced /ˈkɑːmələ ˈdeɪvi/". When I place the cursor over the "eɪ" within that, a tooltip tells me that it's pronounced like the "a" in "face". Do you not see this? Or, if you do, how is it ineffective or unhelpful? Or if it seems OK to you, are you saying that it, or something like it, isn't implemented on enough articles? -- Hoary (talk) 22:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary: Tooltips aren't visible on mobile devices. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:09, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

The questioner's question was not tagged as being made on a mobile device. Marcus Markup (talk) 19:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Good point, Andy Mabbett. As the ability to touchtype with nine fingers and one thumb is, for me, just one of the blazingly obvious advantages of my computer over my phone, I only use the latter when in the train or in bed, and tend to forget that others use their phones for much more. ¶ 24.240... (if you're reading this): Try it on a computer. If the help that the computer gives you resembles what you'd like your phone to give you, search for IPA through the archives of Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) (see the search box within the beige box near the top of that page); if you find nothing helpful there, then ask there about how something similar might be achieved on a phone. -- Hoary (talk) 22:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hoary, I think you are a great editor, but I am an editor and administrator who has made roughly 100,000 smartphone edits and I remind you that the vast majority of devices worldwide capable of editing Wikipedia are smartphones. Desktop computers are a small minority of such devices. Smartphone editors do not need to to be told that it is "blazingly obvious" that they are going about things the wrong way. First because that is false and second because it is insulting to smartphone editors. People like me by the billions all over the world produce written content on smartphones on massively popular websites and social media platforms every hour of every day. We do not need to be told how many fingers and thumbs to use by people who do not understand the process and appear to be biased against it. Cullen328 (talk) 07:57, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Umm, Cullen328, I'm not sure about your evaluation of me as editor; but the rest, yes, agreed. However (cough), didn't you notice the "for me" within what I wrote? On reflection, yes, I agree with my hours-ago self: for me, editing Wikipedia on my computer is hugely preferable to doing so on my phone. When in the train, I often see people busily typing messages and the like on their phones and envy their ability to do so at such speed. For all I know many of them have access to computers on which they can do the same thing but prefer their phones. Each to their taste (or device). -- Hoary (talk) 11:42, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

September 13

Sir Edmund Lechmere, 3rd Baronet

Please fix reference number 5 - I cant work out what I did wrong. Thanks 115.70.23.77 (talk) 01:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

You claim to have accessed this in the year 20244. Easily fixed. But what's this: Through his second son, Anthony Hungerford Lechmere (1868-1954), Edmund was the father-in-law of Cecily Mary Bridges (1884-1964) whose first husband, William George Lupton (1871-1911) of The Green Estate, Bromyard was, like Edmund, "a strong Conservative and took a keen interest in local (Worcester) politics" and fox hunting. Like his father, Anthony Hungerford Lechmere also enjoyed fox hunting. Anthony and Cecily were the parents of Sir Reginald Anthony Hungerford Lechmere, 7th Baronet (1920-2010) whose grandfather was Sir Edmund Lechmere, 3rd Baronet.? Why do we need to know about the the first husband of the subject's daughter in law? (Is it just that everything that can possibly be said about anybody named Lupton is automatically of encyclopedic significance?) -- Hoary (talk) 01:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hoary, opinions evidently differ on whether everything that can possibly be said about anybody named Lupton is of encyclopedic significance. TSventon (talk) 02:27, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

TSventon, most delicately expressed! -- Hoary (talk) 07:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:INDISCRIMINATE comes to mind. The final sentence is a real gem: In 1905, London's Illustrated Sporting and Dramatic News highlighted the exploits experienced and many trophies Sir Edmund and Lady Lechmere had won whilst game hunting.. In simpler words, "a wealthy man and his wife shot and killed a lot of animals 120 years ago".

"Success stories" of draft namespace

In German Wikipedia, a vote is in preparation to introduce draft namespace. For this I am looking for "success stories" of English draft namespace, i.e.: Featured articles that have started as a draft, and to which multiple (at least several) users have contributed relevant content before it was moved into main namespace already in good shape. What are good examples, please? --KnightMove (talk) 03:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

KnightMove, I'm sure that the draft system benefits en:Wikipedia and find it hard to believe that it or something similar would not also benefit de:Wikipedia. So I'd like to help you. However.... You're asking about a draft, to which (while it was still a draft), several users added relevant content before it was promoted to full article status. Hmm, I've never seen such a thing, and can hardly believe that it would occur. Imagine a draft that's clearly about a notable subject but is also defective. (As an example, because it's written as an act of devotion to its subject. Or because half or more of it is referenced to junk sources.) Would a responsible editor who'd like to see it as an article start by adding more "relevant content" to it, or by fixing the problems of what's already there? Either, but I think the latter is more likely. Would several responsible editors all, uninterruptedly, instead do the former? And if so, would none of these be a reviewer who'd remember that "Article submissions that are likely to survive an AfD nomination should be accepted and moved to mainspace"? I think not. If this sequence of events ever occurs, I'm sure that it does so far less frequently than does cooperation between one creator and one established editor, with minor input from a second and perhaps even third and fourth established editor. -- Hoary (talk) 04:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Oh, just have a look at the existing drafts - especially for the special case of film projects which, by consensus, become notable only when principal photpgraphy has started, like Draft:Blade (2025 film). Multiple users (a high two-digit number) have contributed to it, and it is already in remarkable good shape. Once filming starts, a good article will be born. There are several Marvellous drafts like this. I am hopeful that there are like examples (be it with only two users contributing much content) which have ended in featured articles (or be that only good and popular articles with a high number of views).

I am aware that this scenario must be rarer than the case "one creator plus formalizing helpers and minor contributors". However such articles would provide a stronger argument for draft namespace (as compared to drafts in user namespace). That's why I would be grateful for having examples. --KnightMove (talk) 04:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Not sure if it entirely fits the bill, but there is the Lizzy Rose article, which I assisted the creator with while it was in draft space and eventually moved it to mainspace. Mjroots (talk) 05:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Last time I created an article, I asked for help, here on this Help desk. Others edited the draft; one of them added a key reference that I'd been unaware of. I doubt it would ever have made it to mainspace without their help. (I wonder how Germans manage without this possibility.) Maproom (talk) 06:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

de Wikipedia has their version of Wikipedia:User pages, so they can have user space drafts. The exact rules are likely to be slightly different. TSventon (talk) 08:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Right. But drafts in user spaces are rather hidden from other users, so it's hard to establish cooperation there. A draft space would come in handy. --KnightMove (talk) 10:48, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Request rolback

While I was editing on the Italy Davis Cup team page, a problem occurred: I was forced to delete my first edit as there was a problem with the images, but not having rollback rights I made the situation worse. I kindly request a complete rollback.
This is the first time this has happened to me. JacktheBrown (talk) 04:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Rollback to which version? Whichever it is, open it in your browser. Then opt to edit it. You'll get a warning message. Don't edit it; simply save it. Done! -- Hoary (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary: delete all my edits, so the version is the last one before my changes. JacktheBrown (talk) 04:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

You can open the last version before your changes, and either save that anew, or begin editing again from there. CMD (talk) 04:43, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: I can't paste the whole text, a normal rollback would be preferable. JacktheBrown (talk) 04:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I have reverted all your edits. It doesn't require rollback rights but you use the mobile version and I don't know whether it's possible to revert to an old version there. You can click "Desktop" at the bottom of a page to switch to the desktop version where it works as described. Click "Mobile view" to switch back. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:03, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: thank you. JacktheBrown (talk) 05:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

User interactions

Is there some way to find all the times a given user has ever posted on another user's talk page? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Baseball Bugs Like [1]? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@Baseball Bugs The amount of information you can get straight from the "Edit count" link at the bottom of any user's Special:Contributions page is truly amazing. It includes a section detailing the number of edits they have made to any other editor's Talk Page, sorted high-to-low. Wikipedia is watching you! Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:47, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:13, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

How do I write a new page?

Article about a record label that is referenced 100 times in Wikipedia but has no page FreewheelinFrenchy (talk) 09:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

A page about one of the most important indie labels of the 1970z, 80s, 90s. Still running today FreewheelinFrenchy (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia. If you have independent reliable sources that discuss the importance of this label as they see it(not as the label itself sees itself) and can show how it is a notable company as Wikipedia defines it, you may use the article wizard to draft and submit an article. I would suggest using the new user tutorial first, and also reading Referencing for Beginners. 331dot (talk) 10:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.

If you try creating an article without this grounding, you are likely to have a frustrating experience, and quite possibly put a lot of work into a project which cannot possibly come to fruition. ColinFine (talk) 15:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Sydney Martineau

 Courtesy link: Sydney Martineau

Ref. number 2 is not quite right (?) and also please make the letters MBE. - Order of British Empire - smaller, like they are on other pages. Please repair if you are able and thanks 175.38.37.197 (talk) 10:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I think you used the wrong citation template, though I'm not sure which one is better. 331dot (talk) 10:14, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I used "Journal" - which I think is correct - but it is still in RED Please help. Thanks 175.38.37.197 (talk) 12:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

•  Done only citation part.
• I don't understand what do you mean by MBE of Order of British Empire.

kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 13:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Possibly they want "Frederick Alan Martineau M.B.E.", in the Early life and family section, to be styled with {{Post-nominals}}. 57.140.16.35 (talk) 13:58, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

kEmel49, to clarify: The Order of the British Empire (linked above) has five classes, in ascending order

Member (of the (Most Excellent) Order of the British Empire), abbreviated as MBE;

Officer (etc.), OBE;

Commander, CBE;

Knight or Dame Commander, KBE or DBE; and

Knight Grand Cross or Dame Grand Cross, GBE.

Note the post-nominal abbreviations are customarily written without stops, and often in SMALL CAPS. The querant was doubtless just clarifying that 'MBE' referred to a class of this Order. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.83.137 (talk) 21:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

There is a template for postnominals. So {{postnom|country=GBR|size=80%|MBE}} renders as MBE, with the size parameter taking a percentage value. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:00, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Parameter syntax

Hi all, I wonder if someone could explain what the ! in brackets does, please? It was added by RussBot.

{{For|other uses|Linn (disambiguation){{!}}Linn}}

Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 11:50, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

The edit was [2]. See Template:! for documentation (even though it's not a template call). It can make a pipe inside a parameter value instead of starting a new parameter so it's like making a single parameter with value Linn (disambiguation)|Linn. {{for}} places the parameter in link brackets so it becomes a piped link [[Linn (disambiguation)|Linn]]. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks very much for another of your clear explanations. >MinorProphet (talk) 13:22, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

New page

Liance is my sponsor but I can’t find the button (editing help) mentioned to get direct help: on the right corner, there’s no such button. Secondly, yes, the label I want to write a page for is well worth it: as it is, Wikipedia refers to that label at least 35 times that I have seen, as many as 100 times according to others. This label , remember an indie label that has never had a major label’s help, racked up 2 Gold albums and 1 silver, 1 gold single and 2 silver, discovered many bands and artists in various genres and has been trading since 1979, 45 years as a 3 people organisation! Today, many musicians and other labels say it is a legendary, groundbreaking label that has been at the forefront of indie music from day 1! Surely, that label is worthy of a few lines on Wikipedia rather than being referenced in red (no page yet) in your own pages!! FreewheelinFrenchy (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

You may be looking for Help:Editing. Notability is based on coverage by secondary sources, and references in other articles may be a good indicator of that, however secondary sources still need to exist. If you can find enough sources to get a few sentences about the topic down, you can use the WP:Article wizard to set up a draft where others can contribute to the page before it gets moved to article space. Also, I see you're taking plenty of time justifying notability while not linking to the record article. If you can point volunteer editors towards the name of this article, they can contribute to the aforementioned draft article, if you choose to create one. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 14:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

If you know the mentor's name, you may go to their user talk page directly to communicate with them. User talk:Liance.

The presence of links may be an indicator, but is not a guarantee that an article should be created. It depends on showing coverage in independent reliable sources that the label meets WP:ORG. 331dot (talk) 14:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@FreewheelinFrenchy: Where is the mention of the button you can't find? If Liance is your mentor then there should be a link at Special:Homepage. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

September 14

Make contact with a celebrity

Can anyone help me to make contact with Mr Neil Young? Bill1949porter (talk) 04:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I have written a song that Mr Young will SURELY enjoy.

Someone please help. Bill1949porter (talk) 04:12, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Bill1949porter. This help desk is for asking questions about Wikipedia. Most celebrities have official representation and Neil Young probably does as well; so, your best bet may be to try and contact him through his representation. Try Googling his name and see whether he has an official website or social media account. Perhaps either of those might be a way to contact him. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I recently noticed that I have a two-year lock on my Wikipedia account. How can I get this removed?

For Wikipedia account KarlM1980 KarlM1980 (talk) 12:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@KarlM1980: The block log does not show any history of blocks for account KarlM1980. What makes you think that it is blocked?--Gronk Oz (talk) 12:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm guessing you logged on to this account because your main one has been blocked. See Wikipedia:Blocking policy for information on why you were blocked; if you want to appeal a block, log in to Wikipedia as the blocked user and find the process for appeal on your talk page.

However, if your account is "locked", then it was likely used for higher-level disruption or vandalism and is very unlikely to be repealed. See m:Global locks on Meta for more information. Please also note that using other accounts in violation of a block or lock is a violation of Wikipedia's sockpuppet policy and you should not use your account to edit if it has truly been locked like you say. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 13:02, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

"This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources"

Re: Draft:William Martin Boyce the reviewer declined the proposed article, saying that "You can't use self published sources (the subjects own works)." However, the sources weren't self-published; they were published in peer-reviewed mathematics journals, which are specifically identified in the policy as non-self-published. So I don't think I can "fix" this issue. I pointed this out (see the talk page) but the reviewer has not responded. Where should I go from here? WillisBlackburn (talk) 13:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Based on your description the problem is that you're using academic articles about maths to assert the (an?) underlying author is notable. Academic authors aren't automatically notable as far as I know, you need to find reliable coverage specifically about the person. Or, if you want to write about the maths, you should find secondary coverage about the research proving why it matters (after all, there are also lots of research articles, but not all of them make a lasting impact). 134.41.164.51 (talk) 14:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@WillisBlackburn:We do a poor job of distinguishing "reliabile sources" from "sources that help establish notability". Your source is reliable. It does not help establish notability, because it's by the subject, not about the subject. -Arch dude (talk) 15:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

How do I find a named character?

How do I find a named TV personality? 12feet (talk) 16:03, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

What do you mean by "find", 12feet? If you mean "find in Wikipedia", you can use the search facility. If you mean something else, we probably can't help you here. ColinFine (talk) 16:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@ 106.220.57.66 (talk) 17:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Comenzar a crear páginas

Estoy muy interesado en retomar la participación en Wikipedia que considero una de las mejores ideas en Internet. En 2017 creaba mi cuenta pero lo dejé por falta de tiempo, por ahora soy tambien donante.

En aquel momento intentaba crear una artículo sobre un tema jurídico sobre lo que soy especialista, un tributo en España denominado TASA FISCAL SOBRE EL JUEGO. Que ahora intentaría retomar, pues no veo ningún artículo sobre esto.

Pero tambien estaba buscando la biografía de una artista que conozco (RAFAELA CARRASCO), y solo encuentro un artículo en alemán, que está muy desfasado, y querría mejorarlo. Pero en realidad me gustaría crear uno nuevo en español, pues el otro lo puedo ver gracias al traductor Google, que además en seguida deja de traducir..... La pregunta es ¿puedo crear el Artículo sobre ella en español? ¿Tengo que pedir autorizacion al autor del artículo alemán , o tengo que citarlo en el nuevo?. ¿tengo que participar en español, en el que ya está escrito en alemán? ¿Como debo proceder?....

Muchas gracias por adelantado- Carlos lalanda (talk) 20:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

This is the Help desk for English Wikipedia. We cannot help you with Spanish Wikipedia. Please ask at es:WP:C/A. ColinFine (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I have been posting comments about the one-sided and defamatory Wikipedia page for Geoffrey Kabat

Since July 11, I have been positing comments about the Wikipedia Geoffrey Kabat page to draw your attention to the one-sided and distorted picture that this article gives. In the past 2 months I have only gotten very minimal responses. I have followed the guidelines for supporting the new information that should be included to give a balanced account of our paper in the British Medical Journal (2003. SOMEONE AT WIKIPEDIA NEEDS TO READ THE HOURS OF WORK I PUT IN TO GET THIS VERY CLEAR DISTORTION OF THE RELEVANT FACTS CORRECTION. MY POSTS OVER TIME HAVE GOTTEN MORE AND MORE TO THE ESSENCE OF THE CASE AND HAVE INCLUDED IMPORTANT DOCUMENT FROM PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SOURCES. PLEASE TRY TO BRING THIS MATERIAL TO THE ATTENTION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE THIS MATTER SERIOUSLY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AS IT IS, THE ARTICLE IS DEFAMATORY AND TOTALLY ONE-SIDED. IF THERE IS A NEED FOR FURTHER DOCUMENTATION I CAN PROVIDE MORE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. AFTER 2 MONTHS OF NOT GETTING ANY RESPONSE, I THINK WIKIPEDIA SHOULD HONOR ITS COMMITMENT TO CORRECTING DEFAMATORY MATERIAL CONCERNING LIVING PEOPLE. Gkabat (talk) 20:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy link Geoffrey Kabat Knitsey (talk) 20:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Please see no legal threats. Looking at WP:SHOUTING would help as well.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:51, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

• Also, the user name Gkabat suggests that you might be Geoffrey Kabat. If this is the case, it might help to state this openly as guidelines such as WP:AUTOPROB apply here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 21:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@Gkabat: the place to bring up any issues with the Geoffrey Kabat article is talk:Geoffrey Kabat. Please note that independent sources are required to back up any claims and that the WP:BLP policy applies to all pages. Mjroots (talk) 09:33, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

That's what I have provided -- INDEPENDENT SOURCES!! Gkabat (talk) 13:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

If you shout again, you will be blocked. 331dot (talk) 13:31, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

If you are alleging that the article is libelous/defamatory, please handle that as described at WP:LIBEL. 331dot (talk) 13:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia revenue

How does wikipedia get its revenue? From advertising? 2601:447:D181:E7B0:21FC:615:B4B4:CB15 (talk) 21:34, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are volunteers. So far as technical infrastructure, bandwidth, software development, legal services, etc., those are provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, a nonprofit which is donation supported. There is no advertising on Wikipedia, and there all but certainly never will be. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 21:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

You can see all the details in the financial report https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/financial-reports/ RudolfRed (talk) 23:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Editing while logged out

Hey, there. On occasions, I've made some edits while logged out of my user account by accident. Any ideas on what to do here? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sjones23. There's some information on this provided at WP:LOGGEDOUT. This is something that's fairly common, and what is done depends on how much it bothers you. If you're really concerned abuot it, you can as that the IP address be hidden by emailing WP:OVERSIGHT. The record of the edit itself can't be deleted or somehow transferred to your account because of Wikipedia's licensing requirements, but it can be hidden from public view. If, on the other hand, you're not concerned about it be connected to you or want "credit" for it, you can simply treat it as sort of a WP:GOODSOCK and post something about it your user page. Just keep in mind that the more details you post about it, the more there is potentially to clean up and the easier it will potentially be for someone to connect the two accounts. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Understood. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

September 15

New Farallon Is. Pictures

My Dad look up W7LR, was on Farallon Island during WWII and I have some interesting pictures I'd like to share but have no idea how. 73.157.20.9 (talk) 00:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

WP:UPIMG and WP:FUW can help you get started. Essentially you will need to confirm the copyright status of your image before uploading. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:16, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Phil May (caricaturist)

Please fix up references numbers 4 and 8. I am sorry. Please assist. I only got number 8 wrong - not number 4. Thanks 175.38.37.197 (talk) 03:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Photo uploads

How does a newbie post a NASA image of Nantucket Sound on that article page. There is a notice there, saying a good photo is needed. I think I have one that must be in the public domian. Rockawaypoint (talk) 04:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

If it's an image directly from NASA, or you personally took the image, you may go to Commons and upload it(see WP:UPIMAGE for more information). New accounts cannot directly upload images to this Wikipedia specifically, but they can on Commons. Files For Upload can offer help for uploading other types of images to this Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 07:00, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I'll link to Commons specifically- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:First_steps/Uploading_files 331dot (talk) 07:03, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

how i upload my company details in Wikipedia

its how me some error. I need support how to submit our profile Trade Aira (talk) 09:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Trade Aira: You do not submit a company profile because Wikipedia is not a business directory. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 09:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

User blocked. 331dot (talk) 09:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Aras War

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Dasaking7 (talk) 10:15, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello Dasaking7. The immediate problem is that you haven't given a title, and the {{cite web}} template requires one. The title appears to be "ARMENIA/KARABAKH: 1918 - 1920", so you could insert that.

I am a little unsure as to whether that is a reliable source by Wikipedia's criteria, though, as it appears to be self published. However, WP:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 280#conflicts.rem33.com, four years ago, suggested that Andersen was a "subject matter expert", so it might be acceptable. A source from a reputable publisher would be better. ColinFine (talk) 16:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Help nominating an article for deletion?

I want to nominate the article V/Vm Test Records for deletion, since it violates WP:GNG by having no sources or notable news coverage. However, I don't really want to create an account. Is there a way to get this done? 74.108.22.119 (talk) 11:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

There is a way for you to do that, though it requires assistance see WP:AFDHOWTO for more information. 331dot (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

How can I ensure accuracy and neutrality when adding information to Wikipedia articles?

Hello,

I’m interested in contributing to Wikipedia by adding well-sourced information to articles, but I want to make sure I maintain accuracy and neutrality in my edits. Could you provide some tips or guidelines on how to best approach this? Are there any specific resources or tools that seasoned editors use to avoid unintentional bias or misinformation when editing articles? Anas Raza01 (talk) 13:23, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Advice

Say there are two books. They were published several years apart, have completely different titles, covers, structuring. The authors and publishers say and discuss them as separate books to this day. Each is well over the floor of NBOOK. However, having read these books myself, I know that the second is basically an altered and expanded+updated version of the first, sharing about half the same content, while leaving half of the first one out and adding more, but a lot of shared content. None of the sources address this, discussing them purely as two discrete works. I wish to cover both books on Wikipedia. How do I address this? Do I make two articles even though there is a content overlap? Or do I make one article even though that would be a mess and feel like SYNTH because no sources say they overlap? PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Requesting an entry

Hello. In the early 1960s (maybe even in the 1950s) when I lived in New York City there were TV commercials for a product called Nu-Fizz. It was eitheer a small round product (like a Necco wafer) or a powder that one could add to a glass of water to make a personal-size sparking soda-like drink. I am surprised there is no entry for it in Wikipedia. (I'm also surprised I can't find one of the old commercials on youtube.com.) I don't recall enough about the product to write about it, but perhaps someday someone will add information about Nu-Fizz in Wikipedia. Thank you. Fred Ost, Skokie, IL Fred137Ost (talk) 16:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

There would need to be significant coverage in secondary sources for a separate article and so this would probably not qualify. YouTube is a useful source of old TV commercials, but this on its own would not be notable. As you have said, a web search on Nu-Fizz doesn't bring up anything.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

@Fred137Ost: FWIW, this sounds exactly like Fizzies. Fabrickator (talk) 16:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Pseudoscience Listings

I'm reaching out, not because I have a disagreement with elements included on the list on this page (cited below), but because some of the material is being dealt with in such a culturally dismissive and insensitive fashion. I am not a fan of pseudoscience. However, as an anthropologist, I am a big fan of cultural respect. When the facts do not support a thing, clearly, we must go with the facts. But when entire cultures have been using a school of medicine for centuries and continue to use them even now, for example, being respectful is not going to damage those facts. If anything, it might engage those individuals within those cultures to read on. They might then, in turn, consider expanding their options to include alternatives that could save lives. Of course, my opinion and $10 will buy you a small cup of coffee at SB's, but here it is for what it's worth. Thank you for all that you do. In all these years, this is the first time I've found something serious enough (in my opinion) to contact you about. As records go, that's excellent! D Rice-Bassett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_characterized_as_pseudoscience Donna Rice-Bassett (talk) 16:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)