Talk:Humboldt University of Berlin
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Naming
[edit]I suggest moving this page to Humboldt University of Berlin (it requires getting rid of a redirect which is now in the way).
- The German name is Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin;
- For a large part of its history this (the former Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universität) was the only university in Berlin and would often be referred to as simply the University of Berlin. In for instance the Category:German universities, it should be found under B and "Berlin" should be visible in the name. up+land 13:01, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Done; Humboldt University should become a disambig page for this and Humboldt State University. (I would have done it, but I looked at the number of links to Humboldt University which I would break and quailed.) Since you asked for it to be moved, you get to do the fixes. (I did the most necessary ones - disambig pages, etc.) Noel (talk) 16:15, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Humbold unv. was there when california was a village.neurobio 14:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- It is better to not remove the page on the historical university of berlin. Everyone knows the historical university of berlin ceases to exist after the WWII. People want to read information on the old University of Berlin, not Humboldt University. They clearly know their difference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.102.112.13 (talk) 13:13, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
- Humbold unv. was there when california was a village.neurobio 14:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I just saw that Friedrich Wilhelm University redirects here. That is very questionable, since there were three Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universitäten, of which one still is called so today (known here as University of Bonn). The ones in Berlin and Breslau were renamed, with the latter now called University of Wrocław. So there should be a disambiguation page for that! How do I do that? Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- Found it, changed it! Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
University of Berlin
[edit]Currently, University of Berlin does not redirect here. Should it? There is discussion about it at Talk:Universities of Berlin. --Commander Keane 17:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think that the expression "liberation from communism" is not impartial enough to lay in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.72.192.96 (talk) 17:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this is a mistake. An encyclopedia should be exact and correct, and a redirect to the Humboldt University of Berlin is wrong. We have four universities in Berlin and nobody calls the Humboldt University (HU) "University of Berlin". That's why the German page links to the list of universities. Apart from that we had a long discussion in Berlin about the legal successor of the old university. For example the Free University of Berlin (FU) says, that it stands in the moral tradition of the University of Berlin because of the past of the HU (it was communist dominated and not free - a reason for the splitting of the old university into FU and HU). Apart from that many of the former researchers have never worked in the district of Mitte (location of HU) but in the district of Dahlem (location of FU) where the Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes were located until World War II. Many of these institutes and buildings and further 16 institutes of the former University of Berlin belong now to the FU. That's why the Academic Ranking of World Universities does no longer list HU and FU. Both universities claim former Nobel Prize Winners of the University of Berlin for themselves. Until 2003 the ranking added all Winners to the FU and in 2004 to the HU, after it's intervention. Since 2005, both universities are dropped out of the race. Historians clarify now the legal successor of the old university. That must be taken into account. --Wikistar 14:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Paul Rostock
[edit]Paul Rostock (1892–1956) was Chief of the Office for Medical Science and Research (Amtschef der Dienststelle Medizinische Wissenschaft und Forschung) under Third Reich Commissioner Karl Brandt and a Full Professor, Medical Doctorate, Medical Superintendent of the University of Berlin Surgical Clinic. Charged of human experimentation during the Doctors' Trial, acquitted.Xx236 08:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Book burnings 1933
[edit]On the one hand the reader is told:
It was from the university's library that some 20,000 books by "degenerates" and opponents of the regime were taken to be burned on May 10 of that year in the Opernplatz (now the Bebelplatz) for a demonstration protected by the SA that also featured a speech by Joseph Goebbels. A monument to this can now be found in the center of the square, consisting of a glass panel opening onto an underground white room with empty shelf space for 20,000 volumes and a plaque ...
And on the other hand the article states:
During the Nazi book burnings in 1933, no volumes from the university library were destroyed.
These statements cannot both be correct. Norvo (talk) 22:55, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- The contradiction is still there in the article. (I came to the talk page to point it out, and saw that you had already done so five years ago.) This page on Berlin's official website says that it was indeed books from the university library which were burnt. Aridd (talk) 10:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Quality of entire article seriously questionable
[edit]Entire sections of this article stand without any references to sources including the sections: Third Reich, Reopening, East Germany, and Today. This is simply not fitting of basic encyclopedic procedure, even for an article which is in progress. There must be some official Wikipedia tag that can be applied to this article to bring awareness to readers that, as it stands, it does not represent an encyclopedic article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baumgaertner (talk • contribs) 20:18, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, most of that I translated via google from the German Wikipage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.105.46.68 (talk) 21:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
- German language citations are fine though English ones are of course preferable. Dmcq (talk) 23:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Die Universität setzt die Tradition der Nazi-Beute
[edit]Die Universität setzt die Tradition der Nazi-Beute
... Chronik des vierzehnten Jahrhunderts, in Latein und Polnisch geschrieben, gehalten in der Kirche. Apostels Jakobus in Dąbrówka Großpolen. Von der Humboldt-Universität in Berlin ausgeliehen und nie auf die Ajuga zurückgegeben. Quelle: Edmund Osmanczyk Wisla Krakow und es Rodło. Unsere Bibliothek, Warschau, 1985. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.175.141.41 (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
The University continues the tradition of Nazi plunder
[edit]The University continues the tradition of Nazi plunder
... Chronicle of the fourteenth century, written in Latin and Polish, kept in the church. James the Apostle in Dąbrówka Wielkopolska. Borrowed by the Humboldt University in Berlin and never returned to the Ajuga. Source: Edmund Osmanczyk Wisla Krakow and it Rodło. Our Library, Warsaw, 1985. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.175.141.41 (talk) 20:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
Please add to your list if you think he's eligible. --99.11.162.138 (talk) 20:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
...was discovered at this University. 89.204.139.49 (talk) 04:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Redirects of University of Berlin and Universität Berlin
[edit]Right now, University of Berlin redirects to Humboldt University of Berlin and Universität Berlin redirects to Frederick William University. There is then also University of Berlin (disambiguation) that gets linked to at the top of the HU Berlin article. It seems to me that at the least, University of Berlin and its German-language counterpart Universität Berlin should point to the same place, but I don't much care where they point. Can I get consensus about making Universität Berlin point to HU Berlin to go along with University of Berlin? Please comment at Talk:Universität Berlin. Thanks. Remes (talk) 00:12, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Admittance of Women
[edit]Does anyone have any knowledge when they admitted first admitted female students?--24.77.16.87 (talk) 18:49, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Oldest?
[edit]I have placed a {{Contradictory inline}} tag in the lead. Someone more knowledgeable may know why there is, on the surface at least, a contradiction between the statement that the university (HU) "opened in 1810, making it the oldest of Berlin's four universities.
" and the Berlin University of the Arts stating: "founded in 1696
".
I realise it's likely to be something about the gradual accretion of the Arts university, but I think it needs to be explained in one or both articles, otherwise it just appears strange. I'm not sure how to resolve this myself. Any suggestions / edits welcome. AukusRuckus (talk) 10:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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