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Untitled, May 2021
[edit]“...following the military conquest of most of the new continent...”
“After the conquest of Mexico and Peru...”
The armies that defeated the Aztecs were comprised mostly by local indigenous enemies, not Europeans, resembling a civil war of sorts. In the end it was a lack of immunity to Old World diseases that wiped out a large portion of the native population, including indigenous allies, in the subsequent years and decades, rather than warfare.
It was these circumstances that allowed Westernized mestizos, who had better immunity due to their partial European ancestry and outnumbered those of European ancestry early in the colonial period, to thrive at their expense and gradually assimilated the indigenous populations across Latin America.
This was a long process and not completely carried out within the 16th century as after the fall of the Aztecs many indigenous populations dispersed across the continent were not under European rule, and remained autonomous for centuries after European colonization began and by then mestizos were the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants in European colonies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.202.192 (talk • contribs) 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Change the name to Spanish People.
[edit]Spaniard is an offensive term and the correct form should be Spanish. We have Spanish for Spain natives and Hispanic for all the Spanish speaking people so there's no need to use offensive terms. 144.178.129.245 (talk) 02:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Why do you say that it is offensive? --Jotamar (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! Im Spanish and i don't know why it's offensive, could you explain it a bit further, if I may ask? 88.5.24.153 (talk) 08:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Why is new world diaspora barely counted in the population infobox?
[edit]So I noticed that in “regions with significant populations” infobox on the article for the Portuguese people, the 180 million Brazilians who have Portuguese ancestry are counted as Portuguese people. That’s perfectly reasonable, as most articles for ethnicities count diaspora populations. Now, the vast majority of these Portuguese-descended Brazilians also have substantial non-Portuguese heritage mixed in, like European immigrant groups to Brazil that arrived post-independence (mainly Italians, Germans, and Spaniards) and of course African and Indigenous ancestry as well, but that’s ok since most of the enormous Irish diaspora is also mixed and they’re counted as Irish. But when looking at this article for the Spanish people, it seems that Spain’s equally immense diaspora in its former new world colonies is either ignored or grossly underestimated. The great majority of people in Hispanic America from Mexico to Argentina have Spaniard ancestry (mixed to be sure, like the Portuguese diaspora in Brazil) but the highest number for Spaniards in any Hispano-American country listed in the infobox is a tiny 500 thousand. Doesn’t make much sense. 189.6.86.177 (talk) 19:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- So you consider that anyone who can claim to have distant Spanish ancestry should be counted as a Spaniard, right? Jotamar (talk) 23:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)