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Resident evil mentioned in opening paragraph, but not in the popular culture section.[edit]
I would like to point out that the opening paragraph for this article mentions the video game series Resident evil, but the "In popular culture" section does not. I wish for this inconsistency to be resolved, but I do not know the depth to go into without getting off topic. I leave this as something for wikipedians to discuss. 98.181.69.7 (talk) 19:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"... Lee urged highly educated women to have more children, claiming that "social delinquents" would dominate unless their fertility rate increased" Come again?? On what way would the increased fertility rate of these "social delinquents" decrease their dominance? Perhaps: "Lee urged highly educated women to have more children to counteract the domination of "social delinquents"" - or similar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.29.185 (talk) 01:40, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I invite Biohistorian15 to discuss their preferred edits here. In my view, removing "Nazi eugenics", "Bibliography of genocide studies", and "Outline of genocide studies" from the See also and describing Eugenics as a "field of study" represent a substantive POV-shift which would require consensus. Generalrelative (talk) 08:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I was just thinking about opening a thread myself. Maybe I am mistaken but please explain which of the following assumptions was in error:
(1) A point that already has a whole eponymous section with reference a la "main article: ..." below the heading does not need to be brought up in the "see also" section
(2) If two topics are not (non-controversially) the same - considering e.g. positive eugenics most prominently (!) -, one does not reference a separate bibliography from the already expansive one in the main article. Biohistorian15 (talk) 08:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exempt/Recover certain threads from "Lowercase sigmabot III" Archiving?[edit]
Some discussions (e.g. whether eugenics is supposed to be called "pseudoscientific" or not etc. ...) have opened up multiple times and are arguably not fully resolved. Would it be possible to keep a lot of these on the talk page indefinitely, and if so how? Biohistorian15 (talk) 08:21, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest bringing this to WP:FTN to see if there is wider community interest in reevaluating the longstanding language. Not sure it makes sense to selectively keep certain threads from being archived. Generalrelative (talk) 08:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nah. If discussions go idle, they can be archived. If the question isn't fully resolved and it becomes important to resolve it, we can go through WP:DR or create an WP:RFC to deal with it then. Otherwise, there's no reason to have those discussions just permanently pinned here. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite12:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some discussions (e.g. whether eugenics is supposed to be called "pseudoscientific" or not etc. ...) have opened up multiple times and are arguably not fully resolved.
Yeah, no. Considering that this is one of the most controversial wiki articles out there: I don't believe all the discussions have been resolved to the point that there is really no content disputes on this talk page whatsoever. Biohistorian15 (talk) 07:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I will, in fact, commit myself to improving the article over the next few weeks. For this purpose, I think, just importing archived arguments in relevant discussions as a blockquote should do for now... Biohistorian15 (talk) 11:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Apply boldface to "positive" and "negative eugenics"?[edit]
Otherwise, we might well have to make it a whole subsection for people to link to (as opposed to an anchor with intuitive relevance per the emboldened terms...) Biohistorian15 (talk) 16:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First off, as I mentioned, the prose you added did not match Wikipedia's WP:MOS and read more like an essay.
Second, the citation added was a paper whose author asserted their personal opinion and interpretation of the book as part of the CRISPR debates. There is nothing to demonstrate this is WP:DUE for the Eugenics article itself, nor that the author or the paper are a reliable source for the topic. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite18:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with your assessment of the citation, but anyhow: would it help if I moved parts of the quote to a note and solely relied for my clarification on an in-text quote from BNW itself instead? Biohistorian15 (talk) 07:31, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, in that case, it looks like you've seriously violated WP:REUSE. You must properly source the content you took from within Wikipedia (including non-English WP articles) to comply with the Creative Commons license. We have to be able to show attribution to maintain the licensing of the original Wikipedia authors.
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