Talk:David Dellinger
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[edit]Dave Dellinger visited us at the School for Designing a Society in Urbana in 1997. His stories of maintaining integrity in the face of violence moved me deeply. When the police were rioting at the WTO protests in Seattle, gassing and beating people like crazy (one one friend was pulled off the top of a bus stop by her hair as she hid to avoid beatings, my other friend who was a medic was pepper sprayed in the eyes as she tried to care for another demonstrator) I was pissing my pants and praying that I be inhabited by the same courage Dave Dellinger had. He kept his "eyes on the prize" his whole life - from World War II to the WTO protests in Quebec City.
I strongly suggest reading his autobiography, from Yale to Jail.
[Above statements entered anonymously.] Dogru144 (talk) 21:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
The Dave I knew
[edit]My parents were friends with Dave in the 60s through the Ethical Culture movement. Dave came to our home several times for dinner and to visit with my folks in the mid-60s, and when he started the Student Mobilization against the Vietnam war, he asked my parents if I'd be interested in volunteering. For 2 years (1966-68) starting with my junior year in high school, I went to 17 East 17th Street every day after school to be of help to Mr Dellinger. I did anything he asked that a high-schooler could do, from fetching corned beef sandwiches and Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray sodas, to stuffing envelopes and handing out literature, to taking the train way uptown to the printer to deliver materials. My parents came along on the first DC peace march, but after that, I was allowed to go on the train to DC marches only as long as Mr Dellinger could 'keep an eye' on me. I often sat in his office when Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin came to call. I have very vivid memories of those meetings. Dave disliked Hoffman's style, but put up with him because Dave believed Hoffman would bring in 'the youth' to the peace movement. Little did Dave know that Hoffman would bring in the violent side of anti-war protest, and Dave despised that. Dave was a 'peacenik', someone who deeply believed in non-violent protest, a la Gandhi. As a result I developed a serious dislike for Hoffman and Rubin, even though I had to interact with them frequently. I visited Hoffman when he lived at 30 St. Mark's Place with his then-wife Anita. Rennie Davis was often there, too. My reason for writing this is SOMEONE has to express that Dave Dellinger was a proponent of peaceful protest. The anger and violence that Abbie Hoffman leant to the anti-war movement was not anything David Dellinger would have approved of if he'd had the choice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.14.172 (talk) 03:09, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Yale grad?
[edit]The article text said that he left Yale one day. Did he leave it permanently? Or did her return after that momentary protest and complete his degree. If the former, then the categorization as a Yale alum should be arroved. Dogru144 (talk) 21:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
- One need not be a graduate to be an alumnus. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:43, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
- By the dictionary, I think you're probably correct, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone use it except to mean a graduate. For sake of clarity perhaps it should be amended? I think that was the main question Dogru144 was bringing up- "what exactly is his status with respect to Yale? Did he complete or drop out?" Bigjimleo (talk) 06:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I am 99.5% certain that he graduated from Yale in 1936. He certainly was there as a senior in 1935/1936. His autobiography certainly gives all details, though I apologize as it is 1000 miles away from me right now. He did graduate from a college and win a fellowship to Oxford U. If he didn't graduate from Yale, I don't know what to say, as he really didn't have credits anywhere else. In sum, while one might want to verify it with Yale or with Dellinger's autobio From Yale to Jail, it is safe to say he is a Yale grad of 1936, with a degree in economics. Jack B108 (talk) 16:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
From "David Dellinger." Contemporary Heroes and Heroines. Vol. 4. Gale, 2000. Gale Biography In Context. Web. 18 Feb. 2011.:
David Dellinger was born in Wakefield, Massachusetts, on August 22, 1915. His father was a lawyer, a Yale law school graduate, and a Republican. In high school David was an outstanding athlete, long distance runner, and tournament-level golfer. He was also a superb student and already a confirmed pacifist. He graduated from Yale University as a Phi Beta Kappa economics major in 1936 and was awarded a scholarship for an additional year of study at Oxford University in England. On his way to Europe he went to Spain, then in the middle of its civil war. Dellinger was so moved by the spirit of brotherhood among the Loyalist communist troops that he nearly joined them. Instead, he spent his year at Oxford, then returned to America for graduate work at Yale and religious training at the Union Theological Seminary.
I'll find some time to integrate this material later, or if someone else wants to do it, have at it. Gamaliel (talk) 16:09, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Most influential? Citation? NPOV?
[edit]I've added a citation flag for the first sentence which makes a claim relating to how influential he was. Personally, I have no opinion about it. Without citation, this calls NPOV into question. Although he may have done quite a bit, that is not the same as being influential as it does not show how he actually influenced others. Can someone come up with a citation other than the dust jacket quote? I can't put a whole lot of faith in dust jackets as source material personally. Their purpose is marketing. Bigjimleo (talk) 01:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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How did he make his living?
[edit]I think it would be valuable contribution for someone who knows his history well to explain how he made his living during all these years.
Poihths (talk) 00:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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